[mustang_fr500]

My 6131 wont reconized my sw21 switch

Hi I am new here so bear with me, I had a old bell dish for SD all hooked up and working with one single piece of wire running from the LNB to the receiver inside.
I upgraded to a bigger dish with 2 LNBs to receive the HD channels. I also bought the sw-21 switch. I hooked everything up and after running a check switch it only shows 1 port and it shows that there is no switch. I bought a new switch and it is no different. I tried resetting the receiver. I unplugged it before changing any connections. I am lost and need some serious help after 8 hours of messing around I have nothing.

 

[Pinza]

Are you getting signals from each LNBF if you connect to them one at a time, directly, without a switch.?

Are you sure if is an SW21 and not a Disecq switch.

 

[polo123]

my receiver tell me that my sw21 is a sw42 !!!!

Like many others, i cannot put both satelitte on my receiver (6131). He always chose the 91 and he cannot see the 82, even with a reset or switch test.

i tried 82 and 91 alone with out no switch and every thing is fine, good signal on both, but when a put them together on my sw21, the receiver chose automaticaly the 91 and he tell me a have a sw42 ????.....i am not stupid a purschase a sw21 with 2in and 1 output....

Also on the 82 he tell me that i have sometime a lost of signal on the diagnostic, but i still have all the channels and all the transporter are between 70 and 91 %

did you guys have any suggestions......

 

[Pinza]

Remove the input cable from the dish, on the receiver, run a "Check Switch", after it fails, run it again.

 

[polo123]

already done that, same result !!!

iam wondering wy the receiver said i have a sw42 ????

 

[polo123]

sw21 info ??

on the sw21, did i have to put the 91 on the port 1 absolutely ???? because on te diagram show at post 1 here is the opposit...the diagram shoes sat 91 in port 2 of the sw21

 

[Pinza]

It does not matter.....

 

[polo123]

thanks pinza !!!

i just change my sw21 buy a genuine one (dish)...my other one was a jober one and since one week my receiver was saying that i have a sw42 but it was a sw21....anyway a bought sw21 dishbrand, and now it shows sw21 on the receiver, but cannot see the sat 82 still...i will change my rg6 and lnb next......iam very disapointed yet...both sat works with out the switch

one problem at the time..after that it will be changing the receiver

 

[Pinza]

Well at least you are a step closer, that is a good thing.

 

[cowbell]

Sw34 / sw44

Problem solved

 

[polo123]

Pinza !! i went to my friend house and try my 6131 on his setting...he have a sw44 with 91-82.....my receuver work right away on both sat....i was suprise that his signal was 100% on both sat

Is that the cause of my problem (impossible to see 82 with my sw21) my signal is 69-84 on sat82 and 73-93 on sat 91...

did i nedd a sw44 to get a stonger signal to my receiver ??? or just have a stronger alignement ?


wath do you think Pinza

 

[Pinza]

Your levels are low on 82, especially when you consider that is a newer more powerful Sat. Re-aiming and getting better levels will not hurt for sure but there should be no reason for an SW44, the SW21 will be fine, honest.......lol

 

[Jethro]

Changing an old install

I have questions that I hope I can find answers. I've been reading the stickies trying to level up my knowledge.

Current setup:
Old dish with a dual LNB but only cabled on one side. Runs into house straight to 5100 receiver downstairs. No switches in between just a double female connector which would be the place to put a switch.

Proposed setup:
Been toying with the idea of getting a new receiver like the 6131. Keep the old receiver until it dies. NEED the PVR and will like to do the HD sometime.
I know I need another cable run from dish to basement where first cable run is.

Questions:
Is the dual LNB enough to feed both receivers?
What switch would work best from dish to run both receivers?
What about wiring in the old antennae as I see someone mentioned something about being able to do that?

Edit: Looking around maybe a SW34 would do the trick?

Thanks

 

[Pinza]

To just add a 6131, without any HD, you only need a second line from the LNBF to the receiver, that simple.

Adding in an Off Air Antenna, can be done with the switch you mention, a good make is Eagle Aspen, don't forget that attaching the OTA Antenna to the switch will drop the signal levels so an Amplifier may be required.

When you decide to go for HD, if you have already activated the 6131, you will no longer be eligible for the Free Upgrade, so again, bear that in mind.

Might be worth getting the 6131 and adding an international channel for 6 months, so you get a New Dish and the correct Switch's etc, all for free.

It used to be possible to add "Salt & Pepper" I think it was, for $2.50 per month for 6 months, not sure if that can still be done. Someone here should be able to let us know the cheapest way to do this without adding HD.

 

[Jethro]

I see so I am on the right track to get a SW34 (or 3x4 Multiswitch it's called).

So what deals are available then if I have to redo my channel package as well?
I guess I forgot to mention this is all starting from Bell forcing another $5/mth to "maintain" my old channel package. They mention I can get a $75 credit for getting a new receiver.

The channels cost is moving to where it's cheaper to dump it all and start over. Which is their plan all along as I have been a stubborn git and refuse to get rid of my old package mostly as it suit me fine.

Hmmm so instead of spending $5 extra a month to keep my old package I am looking at spending ???? on a newer receiver, redo all my channels and then have to buy a new TV as all I got is old CRT's. That's man-math for sure. Now to convince the wife.

 

[loyalistcollege]

Bell 9241 System Info Warning!

Hello all,

On our Bell 9241 Reciever we are having a couple issues. In the System Info One page we see a giant red X under the "g" column for our satellite 82. We also have another satellite which is 91, it currently has no marks underneath it showing a checkmark or an x. We have a dual LNB satellite dish connected a SW21. In the Details section it tells us to run a switch check and we have, it just tells us an input is not connected but we do not have anything connected to input 2. As both of our satellite signals come in through input 1.

Please help we can not find any information regarding this red x and what it means.

P.S In the "Point Dish" menu both satellites 91 and 82 show well over 90% signal strength, so the direction of the dish's are not the issue we are assuming.

 

[Pinza]

The 9241 is a Dual Tuner HD PVR and as such it needs 2 feeds, 1 for Input 1 and 1 for Input 2.

If you only have 1 line to Input 1, that is why you are seeing that on the Check Switch Screen.

You should duplicate the wiring for Input 2.

 

[silverdragon]

I have a question about the installation of multiswitches. Can I use an eagle aspen 3x8 multiswitch AFTER using 2 SW21's from the dish?

IE: I install 1 switched 82/91 into input 1 of the x8 multiswitch, and 2nd switched 91/82 into input 2?

Just curious if it works that way or not.

 

[Pinza]

No, it will not work that way. To get 8 ports with 91 & 82 you need to use 2 x SW44's & 2 x 4 Way Multiswitch's.

You can connect the 3x8 to just 91, then use 2 outputs to feed a pair of SW21's, with the other lines feeding the SW21's coming from the 82 LNBF, this will give you 2 ports of BOTH 91 & 82 and leave you with 6 ports on the 3x8 of 91.

 

[angus.black]

SW34 - (2) SW21 Setup

This is how I have my system set up for (2) HD and (2) Standard receivers.

Both 91° signals and an analog cable line running to a SW34 multiplexer.
The SW34 feeds 91° signal and cable to 2 SW21 switches and 2 Standard receivers.
The two 82° signals are also sent to the 2 SW21 switches.
Demuxers are used at each receiver to separate the satellite and cable signals.