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ken0042 said:
The way Joe is describing it, the receiver would just be a pass through; and wouldn't be doing anything with the signal.
Yes but he is going to the RF in on the 5200, so can/will the 5200 record it or play from the 9200 hard drive?

Alt
 
Altaman said:
Yes but he is going to the RF in on the 5200, so can/will the 5200 record it or play from the 9200 hard drive?

Alt
You would control the 9200 box. If you want to watch or record on Tuner 2.

I believe Ken is absolutely correct. It will just be a pass through.

The only little trick is going to explain how it will work to the wife.

Some rooms will have 2 UHF remotes. In the bedroom it will be required to use the 5200 UHF remote to press TV/Video and then use the 9200 UHF remote to control the box.

One thing I am unsure of is:

If someone is watching the 5200 where the receiver is so tuner 1 and then someone goes to bedroom wanting to watch the 9200 you would do as I said above.........but.........will the original person watching the 5200 still be able to watch?? Wouldn't pressing the TV/Video button kick them out?

Joe
 
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joedoe said:
The only little trick is going to explain how it will work to the wife................


Wouldn't pressing the TV/Video button kick them out?
This is why I was suggesting having them come out on seperate channels, combining the signals, and then have channel 5 be the 5200, and channel 9 be the 9200. That way nobody would get kicked out.

Unless Mrs. Joedoe is a technological geek like us.............. :D
 
ken0042 said:
This is why I was suggesting having them come out on seperate channels, combining the signals, and then have channel 5 be the 5200, and channel 9 be the 9200. That way nobody would get kicked out.

Unless Mrs. Joedoe is a technological geek like us.............. :D

lol.......well....I didn't get why you said those numbers before but I got it now.

Unfortunetly you need to choose between I think 21-69 Air and 70-125 CATV.
I will just go with 52 & 92 LMAO. That will be even more confusing since one is and Air channel and the other is a CATV channel!!

Well.........it will be easy to test first what happens with the easier setup but I have a feeling its going to kick the person off which is not what I want to do. I may have to get a combiner and combine the output from 5200 and 9200 before the amplifier. This should be fairly easy as well. Not sure if signal will degrade by joining. Will need to buy a bi-directional or combiner as well if the other way doesn't work.

Well it turned out to be an interesting convo anyways!

thanks for the input guys.

Joe
 
remotes?

Hi , first thanks for all the info provided for hook up. Okay: I will be using example #4 for my hook up. I'm selling my 3100&6100 and sending both my sat feeds to the 9200 exactly as example 4 . For my other t.v's , I will be using tv2 output coax. to a joiner connected to all other rg6 in the house(4 other rooms) , for distribution thoughout the house . okay now my questions; 1st . Will the uhf remote control volume on more than one t.v.? I imagine you would have to assign each t.v. to a different button on the remote. (aux or vcr?). 2nd . I'm also hoping that both tv2 outputs are active at the same time . Along with the coax distribution I will be using there is one t.v. in the basement that will be hooked up to the 9200 rca connection.
 
1) You can usually program AUX to control a second TV. However, if you can splurge for about $70, it would be more convenient to buy a second TV2 remote (or more) so you don't have to keep moving it from room to room.

2) Almost certainly, yes all outputs will be active at the same time.
 
I agree with North about having an extra UHF remote. If you are going to be viewing in a few areas with a lot of consistancy it will come in handy. I however disagree with paying $70 for it. Ebay would be a much better bet and would probably cost you $35 max. with exchane and shipping. Probably a lot less.

All the TV's will be active however keep in mind only TV1 and TV2 can be active (watching) with control in one place at a time.
 
In Option #2- Installing the 9200 using a Quad LNB....can that ONLY be a DishPro Quad LNB or can I also use a Legacy Quad LNB?

I have _3_ lines coming from the dish. I want to connect 1 to a 5800 and to both tuners on the 9200, both with HDTV. Inside the house I have 1 line going to 5800 and 2 lines going to 9200 location.

Thanks!!
 
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That would work just fine, GeerGuy.

I can't see my diagrams while I'm at work, but from the text, I recall specifically leaving out the words "Legacy" or "Dish Pro" and saying Quad LNB because either would work fine.
 
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I don't think so. (Somebody help me out if you know for sure.)

My understanding is that the switch wants to make one each of the inputs Odd on 91, another Even on 91, another Odd82 and then the other Even82.

I understand your line of thinking; 2 feeds, 2 receivers; what's the problem? Well, what happens if you want to watch something on Odd91, and Mrs. GeerGuy wants to watch something on the other receiver on Even91?
 
well I guess Mrs. GeerGuy will have to go read a book :)

I think that you are right....the Quad LNB is my best option, I just wanted to use the SW44 that BEV hands out for free instead of buying more stuff...

Thanks for the help!
 
The Quad LNB is the one I'm interested in as well. Could one of you clarify if the quad LNB is supported by bell and where would I get it from? I don't suppose there will be one in the box of the 9200 (or 9220 package...whatever)?

-Mike
 
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By supported by Bell, if you mean does it work fine, then yes. If you mean "will Bell give me grief if I tell them I have a Quad", they might.

As for where to get one, I like eBay. Check the seller's feedback, and comments people have made in the feedback. Make sure you get one that is new, or tested. Sometimes the ones that "aren't tested, sold as is" are actually not working.

Atlaman had suggested this place as well: http://www.dishstore.net/
 
GeerGuy said:
Can a SW44 be used with 2 lines coming in instead of 4, and then only go to _2_ receivers (both sats)....
No, you need one set of cables for the each of the even/odd transpoders on all satellites connected to the SW44.

Alt
 
Altaman said:
No, you need one set of cables for the each of the even/odd transpoders on all satellites connected to the SW44.

Alt
So what you're saying is that there is no point in using both a Legacy Quad and a SW44? It's one or the other. (You're not going to be able to use both to connect up say 6 receivers.)
 
I've had ongoing discussions with my local Bell Store Expressvu installer about the option #1 as was explained in the first post in this thread.

"Example #1- Installing a 9200 using only 1 cable.
To do this, you will need the following items. A Dish Pro Plus (DPP) Twin LNB, and a DPP Seperator"

After checking around and confirming, my installer says this WILL NOT work with Bell Expressvu up here in Canada. He really wanted this to work, as it makes an installers job easier if you only have to feed 1 cable to the receiver and split it.

BUT..it has to do something with stacked Vs non-stacked systems (I wasnt too clear on the exact terminology...)

SO I JUST WANT TO PASS A WARNING TO THOSE OF YOU HOPING THE DPP HARDWARE WILL WORK FOR YOUR INSTALLATION...DOUBLE..AND TRIPLE CHECK WITH AN EXPERT INSTALLER BEFORE PURCHASING YOUR 9200 AND FINDING OUT YOU WILL HAVE TO SOMEHOW FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET 2 CABLES TO IT!
 
FortMacDude said:
"Example #1- Installing a 9200 using only 1 cable.
To do this, you will need the following items. A Dish Pro Plus (DPP) Twin LNB, and a DPP Seperator"

After checking around and confirming, my installer says this WILL NOT work with Bell Expressvu up here in Canada. He really wanted this to work, as it makes an installers job easier if you only have to feed 1 cable to the receiver and split it.
Well unless BEV specifically removes DPP support (they have unsupported DPP support in all their DP receivers that I am aware of), the 9200 (U.S. version is a 942) will support this setup. I have read on one of the U.S. DBS sites that there seems to be some type of problem if you are using just a DPP-Twin LNB with respect to guide updates, however the problem is not there if you are using a DPP-Twin/DPP-44 switch.

By not working, wonder if they mean that BEV does not support the setup...At any rate I have a DPP-Twin, DPP44 switch and the DPP separator and am will to bet 12 cold Canadian bottled beer (brand I drink) that it will work. Note if you win/lose, must be picked up/delivered in Calgary.

Alt
 
North_of_Calgary said:
So what you're saying is that there is no point in using both a Legacy Quad and a SW44? It's one or the other. (You're not going to be able to use both to connect up say 6 receivers.)
According to the EKB and THIS article, you can not use a Quad/SW44 combination to hook up 6. The Quad will give you upto 4 recievers, a Quad & 2 SW44's (and other parts) will give upto 8 receivers. I think that what happens is once you use the SW44, the internal switch is disabled and the four connections from the Quad revert to one odd/even signal each essentially making it into a two legacy duals.

If anyoine wants alot of info on Dishnetwork technology there is the link to the full EKB!

Alt
 
Altaman,
I have a DPP separator right now. My DPP Twin is on route.
I have NO SW44.

I was planning an installation like your example #1.
I have however run 2 cable runs. The second cable run is
for a future 2nd receiver when I replace the 9200 TV2 RF
with its own receiver.

A couple of questions.

Do you think my lack of a SW44 will be an issue?
Do I have to terminate the second cable run in any way or
should I just not hook it up to the LNB until I need it?

Thanks
 
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