[hercules130]

Round 2 tonight, Jets home game and no 4K. I guess this means that there will be no 4K game at all for round 2 as there has never been Habs home game in 4K.

 

[hercules130]

This is the Stanley Cup Final on Canadian soil. I would argue this is the biggest sporting event in Canada since the 4K technology is available, even bigger than Raptors' NBA Finals, bigger than the Grey Cup. Yet Sportsnet does not put the effort for broadcasting the games in 4K. Unbelievable.

 

[Dr.Dave]

TSN4K on Zap2it says "Next live event August 5 at 8:30pm EST", which just happens to be the CFL season opener Hamilton at Winnipeg.

 

[hercules130]

Tonight's CFL game HAM @ WPG is indeed in 4K. Crisp and clear.

 

[SportsFan]

Good news! Shaw has finally entered the new TV era and now has live 4K channels. Was going through the guide today and there is TSN4K on channel 216, SN4K on 217 and SN14K on 218. Looks awesome! Watching live Ryder Cup in 4K on TSN right now and Blue Jays in 30 is on the SN4K channel right now. Woman's soccer is on SN14K.

I just saw this post on the Shaw section. Did TSN really show the Ryder Cup in 4K? I'm skeptical about the soccer. I assume he was watching the FA Women's Super League and I don't think that is produced in 4K in the UK.

 

[hercules130]

Did TSN really show the Ryder Cup in 4K?

No.

 

[SportsFan]

SN and TSN never broadcast in 4K any rebroadcasting program - that they do not produce themselves.

TSN and Sportsnet still haven't shown anything in 4K that they didn't produce themselves?

 

[hercules130]

No, they have not.

In addition, TSN is better that it only puts 4K programs on its 4K channel. OTOH, SN keeps putting HD programs on its SN 4K and SN1 4K channels.

 

[SportsFan]

TSN is better that it only puts 4K programs on its 4K channel.

That's why I was surprised by the guy who thought he was watching the Ryder Cup in 4K on TSN. I did a little research and it doesn't look like it was even shot in 4K.

SN keeps putting HD programs on its SN 4K and SN1 4K channels.

Some people say the picture is better on the Sportsnet 4K channels even if it's only HD because it's less compressed.

 

[hercules130]

Some people say the picture is better on the Sportsnet 4K channels even if it's only HD because it's less compressed.

I do not know about that. In the cases that they are not 4K, programs on SN4K are just simulcast of SN-Ontario.

 

[mgut]

I would agree the picture on the SN4K channel is better than standard SN. I think it is because of the compression as mentioned above. My big question is why neither SN or TSN is picking up 4K feeds from other broadcasters for events like the Super Bowl, Olympics, etc. Is there an extra cost charged for them to pick it up? If the broadcast is there and they have the channel there really is no reason not to pick it up unless there is some sort of cost issue I would think.

 

[57]

I would suspect that the better picture is due to the upconversion being done with much better equipment by the broadcaster or by the service provider, rather than at the STB or the TV.

FAQ - On Upconversion

Questions regarding Upconversion are pretty frequent on this site. Here's a summary which provides a few "rules of thumb", however, please realize that, as with all rules of thumb, there will be exceptions. Upconversion is a term that can apply to "deinterlacing" (taking a 480i signal and...

www.digitalhome.ca

The above FAQ was created mainly for HD, rather than 4K, but the same logic applies.

 

[Dr.Dave]

My big question is why neither SN or TSN is picking up 4K feeds from other broadcasters for events like the Super Bowl, Olympics, etc.

I thought that SN did show some Olympics programming in 4K, according to that thread. The last Super Bowl wasn't produced in 4K due to Covid. The previous year was the first "4K production", but it was actually shot in 1080p and upscaled for the broadcast.

 

[mgut]

SN did provide some Olympic 4K programming you are correct. But TSN has not and SN outside of the Olympics has not either.

 

[SportsFan]

There wasn't complete consensus that SN had Olympics in 4K and since Sportsnet shows non-4K stuff on their 4K channels it's hard to know for sure.

I haven't seen anything shown from the olympics in 4k on the 4k Sportsnet channels. Pretty sure they're only showing 1080p.

Some guys seemed pretty sure that Sportsnet had 4K Olympic events, Rogers had 4K events on demand, and the Sportsnet app had some 4K events.

 

[llamasmurf]

I watched quite a bit of the olympics and never noticed the SN4K logo that they put up for home Leafs or Blue Jays games when they broadcast those in 4K. I also think it would be something that would be very marketable and they'd be shouting from the rooftops that they are showing the olympics in 4K as that would be a first in Canada I think. I did pay closer attention to quality after the 4K claim but I still think it was 1080p upscaled. I didn't watch any on demand so it's possible that it could have been 4K.

 

[hercules130]

I thought that SN did show some Olympics programming in 4K, according to that thread. The last Super Bowl wasn't produced in 4K due to Covid. The previous year was the first "4K production", but it was actually shot in 1080p and upscaled for the broadcast.

Negative. SN did put several events on their SN4K channel, but they were simulcast of SN-Ontario, not true 4K.

 

[Dr.Dave]

My big question is why neither SN or TSN is picking up 4K feeds from other broadcasters...

Does SN show the World Series in 4K? It seems to be widely available in the U.S. through the FOX NOW and FOX Sports apps and FOX Sports 4K TV.

 

[57]

IIRC, SN has only shown Jays home games in 4K, nothing else. This could change in the future.

IIRC, SN never had a 4K schedule like TSN (below). If you went to the SN TV schedule, found a programme, it would tell you what channels it was on and indicate if it was available in 4K. I didn't see anything on their website currently in 4K.

TSN has a 4K schedule, see link below:

TSN 4K Broadcast Schedule - TSN.ca

Check out TSN's monthly schedule of broadcasts in 4K. Schedule subject to change.

www.tsn.ca

I'm going from memory in all this, so I could be wrong.

 

[magnet]

Does SN show the World Series in 4K? It seems to be widely available in the U.S. through the FOX NOW and FOX Sports apps and FOX Sports 4K TV.

Doesn't SN use the international feed instead of the Fox / FS1 Feeds for the World Series?