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bclaringbold said:
i still see the same problem happening that has happened in the past. Tons of the 'No Sticker' boxes around for new subs but none for existing customers. Just because of a sticker.
It very well could. Lets hope it doesn't and if it does they are quick to add stickers.
 

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New EVU customers - no sticker

Existing EVU customers - "Existing Customer Sticker"
Thanks Deckster, it would seem strange to me that they would do this simply to control inventory levels?

And as an existing customer, why would I want to buy a 9200 box if I were permitted to buy a 9220 and get a SW44 included? (Even if I already had one, I could sell it Ebay - unless a 9200 was all that was available.)
 

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Another 9200 Installation question

I haven't seen this installation variation discussed yet.

I currently have a single 5200 receiver, with a single cable coming down from the dish. I've upgraded the dish from the original 18" to 21"

The DPP LNB and seperator approach would be ideal for me but the question is:

Are the dual satellite dishes any different from the regular i.e. are they elliptical?

If they are the same, it sounds like all I would need is the 9200 and seperately buy the DPP gear. If the dish shape is different, then apparently I would need the 9220 complete with dish and then decide whether I would prefer to string 3 more cables, or spend a little more for the DPP setup.

Hope this makes sense.
 

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ken0042 said:
Example #4- Installing with 2 SW21 Switches
This is how you would do the install if you are buying a 9220 package from Bell, this is your only receiver, and you want to use the components that Bell supplies you. Because the 9220 isn't out yet, I'm going on the assumption that Bell will give us 2 Dual LNB's, and 2 SW21's.

Each of the LNB's will point to one satellite, so you use the switches as if you are combining the signal. So a line goes from each LNB into each of the switches, then each of the cables coming out of both switches goes into the receiver.
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So, since my current installation for my 6000 is exactly as shown in the diagram, but with only a cable running from one of the SW21's all I need to do is run a 2nd cable from the other SW21. Correct?
 

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HiDefBob said:
So, since my current installation for my 6000 is exactly as shown in the diagram, but with only a cable running from one of the SW21's all I need to do is run a 2nd cable from the other SW21. Correct?
Yes, thats correct.
 

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Bob, yes that is correct; assuming you aren't planning on using the 6000 anymore.
 

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journeyman said:
I currently have a single 5200 receiver, with a single cable coming down from the dish. I've upgraded the dish from the original 18" to 21"
The 5200 needs two lines. how do you have one?
 

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joedoe said:
The 5200 needs two lines. how do you have one?
Damn - I mistyped 5200 instead of 5100 Here's my corrected post:
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I haven't seen this installation variation discussed yet.

I currently have a single 5100 receiver, with a single cable coming down from the dish. I've upgraded the dish from the original 18" to 21"

The DPP LNB and seperator approach would be ideal for me but the question is:

Are the dual satellite dishes any different from the regular i.e. are they elliptical?

If they are the same, it sounds like all I would need is the 9200 and seperately buy the DPP gear. If the dish shape is different, then apparently I would need the 9220 complete with dish and then decide whether I would prefer to string 3 more cables, or spend a little more for the DPP setup.

Hope this makes sense.
 

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OK, so you are planning on keeping the 5100, I assume?

Then yes, install the DPP Twin. Run 1 line to the 5100. Run the other line into the seperator, then the 2 lines from it into the 9200. Let me know if this isn't clear; and I can put together one of my diagrams tonight when I get home. (I can't get to Photobucket from work.)

Now, with the 21" dish- could it be 20"? I ask because Bell doesn't make a 21" dish. What I am really looking for is this: is there a "Y" adapter for 2 LNB's on it?
 

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ken0042 said:
OK, so you are planning on keeping the 5100, I assume?

Then yes, install the DPP Twin. Run 1 line to the 5100. Run the other line into the seperator, then the 2 lines from it into the 9200. Let me know if this isn't clear; and I can put together one of my diagrams tonight when I get home. (I can't get to Photobucket from work.)

Now, with the 21" dish- could it be 20"? I ask because Bell doesn't make a 21" dish. What I am really looking for is this: is there a "Y" adapter for 2 LNB's on it?
I'm actually going to pass the 5100 on to a family member so I'll still only have the one receiver. There's a single cable to it from where the line enters the house so I figure that with a seperator I can just run two lines from the seperator to the 9200 (easier than pulling another cable thru the basement).

The dish is a single LNB and you're probly right about it being 20". No Y adapter. So my guess is, I have to swap the dish - right?
 

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Still confused!!

Ken, first off thank you for the great setup info!!!
I have to say that I am still a little confused after reading all of the responses to this thread.
I have a 3100 and a 6100, a 20" dish with 2 dual output LNBs and 2 SW22s.
Are you saying that I can only use a separator on one of these lines if I change to a different type of LNB?
Sheesh, I have only had my 6100 for about 8 months now, had to pay for an installer to move the dish to the roof because of a line of sight issue to sat 82, and now I will probably have to get someone up on the roof again AND maybe run another line into the house?
I am wondering if this is going to really be worth the bother!

Thanks!

Andrew
 

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audiolab said:
Are you saying that I can only use a separator on one of these lines if I change to a different type of LNB?
Andrew that is the only way you are going to be able to use the separator is to go with at least the DPP-Twin (if you are only going to use two receivers). The other thing is that BEV at this time does not officially support DP technology, so if you have technical problems then they most likely will not help you as you would not be using their authorized hardware.

That being said, what is more of a problem, running a second line to the 9200 or buying and installing the DPP-Twin & separator?

BTW you also have to have RG6 cable rated at 2200ghz installed to use the single line/separator. This is due to the freqency that is used to send/separate the signals.

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I'll be going with diagram #1.

I'm the one who won the e-bay bidding for the Dish Pro Plus Twin LNB with two seperators, (final cost about $71CAN,) so I'll be sticking with just two lines coming into the house.

Looking forward to getting this receiver.
 

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audiolab said:
I have a 3100 and a 6100, a 20" dish with 2 dual output LNBs and 2 SW22s.
I assume you mean SW21 switches. Are the switches inside or outside your house? If you don't know.....do you know if you have 4 cables or 2 cables going into your house?
 

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Similar setup?

joedoe said:
I assume you mean SW21 switches. Are the switches inside or outside your house? If you don't know.....do you know if you have 4 cables or 2 cables going into your house?

I have a similar if not same setup. 2 dual LNBs and 2 SW21 switches outside the house and 2 cables running into the house. I also have a RCA D6520 multi-switch. Can I run the 2 cables into the multi-switch, and then run 2 cables into the 9200 and 1 into the 6100?

Thanks joedoe
 

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That RCA switch only has 2 inputs; you would need 4.

So, both Ed27 and Audiolab: what I would do in your respective shoes is use a SW44, and use my example #3 for setup.

The DPP Twin with seperators is good if you cannot run 2 cables to the receiver. The big downside is you can only run 2 receivers off the twin, unless you also get a DPP SW44.......... in other words a fair amount of bother.

The word on the street is that the 9220 package will come with the SW44, so if that's the case, it makes life easy.
 

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There are so many variations that can be done.

If both Ed27 and Audiolab have only two wire running into house it is a tough call.

Audiolab said his dish is on roof.

I would have to get more info to give a recommendation.

Things like:

Can you have 2 more lines going into house?
Can you have 2 lines going to 9200?

There are pro's and con's to each setup.

it may make sense to buy the DPP twin and separator and go on roof to change the lnb.
 

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ken0042 said:
That RCA switch only has 2 inputs; you would need 4.
Not only that but it can NOT handle 2 satellites.

So you would have to run 2 cables into house into the RCA switch and then 2 more wires from 82 lnb. You can then join the 82 with 91 *after* the rca switch.

If you have all the equipment already......there is nothing wrong with that method as well.

personally. I like the DPP twin method and when I get it I am hoping it will work.
 
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