[57]

If your Garmin GPS is like mine, it's what's limiting the bandwidth. Mine's d*mn slow!

What happens with mine is the download goes to my computer as fast as Rogers allows. It then gets written to the Garmin, which, as you stated can be slower. As I mentioned, it was 400 to start and ramped down to 150 after a few seconds when I had 150 a few years back.

I don't use my Garmin any more so I haven't bothered testing large downloads since I'm on the higher speed and with that speed the download is so fast that it's actually difficult to test unless you had a really large file.

 

[57]

My opinion is to just dump cable and go for Fibre if its available in your area.

With Cable it's possible in most areas to get 1.8 Gbps DL speeds, which almost no one needs. People always talk about and purchase these high speeds when most people have no need for them and could save hundreds of $/year, like I do.

 

[JamesK]

People always talk about and purchase these high speeds when most people have no need for them and could save hundreds of $/year, like I do.

I got 500/30 when I switched to Ignite TV. That was already more than I needed, but it came as part of the packages. I recently switched to 1.5 Gb/50, not because I wanted it, but to save some money.

 

[57]

I recently switched to 1.5 Gb/50, not because I wanted it, but to save some money.

I was speaking in general, not to you specifically. I realize that Rogers often offers a discount in your package while you increase your speed, which is a bit weird. That's how I went from 30 to 60 to 150 to 500 too, not due to need but due to discounts.

 

[ExDilbert]

Rogers had a promo on 1.5Gb cable for $90/mo in August. It might still be available. That's cheaper than the 150Mb plan but I think it is tied to a 2 year contract and then goes back to the regular price. It suspect it may also be available as a retention deal without contract in some cases.

 

[velocci]

because of this very low upload speed with Rogers, I am thinking of moving to Bell's fiber. for those who experienced both Rogers and Bell, who has the better service in terms of customer service and they way the technology works.

 

[-Jim-]

I was speaking in general, not to you specifically. I realize that Rogers often offers a discount in your package while you increase your speed, which is a bit weird. That's how I went from 30 to 60 to 150 to 500 too, not due to need but due to discounts.

This is exactly how we ended up with our present plan from Rogers (nee Shaw). Initially our needs were small, and we didn't have a lot of extra cash to waste so we had the lowest cost plan at 5 Mbps with a data cap wrapped with out Cable TV. Shaw discontinued that level and bumped us up. After haggling numerous successive 2 year deals, eventually we are up to 500 Mbps with unlimited data. We really don't need it but the costs actually have gone down a bit in the last two 2 year plans. Of course we haven't had the current Rogers experience at renewal time yet. I guess we'll see how that goes...

 

[ExDilbert]

Once the higher speed infrastructure is built, it costs very little to provide higher speeds or unlimited data to the average customer. Demand is going to go up in any case since most internet content keeps getting larger, more feature rich and more complex. Once the existing infrastructure becomes saturated, then it costs a considerable amount of money to upgrade or expand it. However, telcoms and, especially, cable companies have been rebuilding their infrastructure every 10 years or so for decades. How often depends on the materials and application. Most copper cable exposed to the elements is only designed to last about 20 years but, these days, it usually becomes obsolete first. Fibre optic cable is less likely to become obsolete and has a longer expected life span but may start to deteriorate after about 25 years.

 

[ExDilbert]

because of this very low upload speed with Rogers, I am thinking of moving to Bell's fiber. for those who experienced both Rogers and Bell, who has the better service in terms of customer service and they way the technology works.

Rogers is generally better to deal with but service calls can be slow and their technology is generally not as good. Bell has better infrastructure and technology but the can be difficult to deal with. The other issue with Bell is that they are very slow to provide their latest technology in less populated or less profitable areas. Bell has rebuilt their fibre systems in the GTA two or three times while they have ignored other areas. That means that a lot of people are stuck on 20 year old technology, such as 5Mb DSL internet, while Rogers is providing gigabit cable internet in the same areas.

 

[velocci]

Rogers is generally better to deal with but service calls can be slow and their technology is generally not as good. Bell has better infrastructure and technology but the can be difficult to deal with. The other issue with Bell is that they are very slow to provide their latest technology in less populated or less profitable areas. Bell has rebuilt their fibre systems in the GTA two or three times while they have ignored other areas. That means that a lot of people are stuck on 20 year old technology, such as 5Mb DSL internet, while Rogers is providing gigabit cable internet in the same areas.

Bell has recently dug up all the streets in my area to bring a fiber optic line to each house. so its all set. my only issue is that their prices are the same or higher than Rogers. plus i'm so used to rogers channels and then I'd have to get used to different channel numbers, etc. I know Bell has promotional offers right now, but when the promotional offer expires I have to pay full price. I've been on Promotional offers with Rogers for years now which is good, but I don't like how old their infrastructure is and I need higher upload speeds.

 

[JamesK]

That means that a lot of people are stuck on 20 year old technology, such as 5Mb DSL internet, while Rogers is providing gigabit cable internet in the same areas.

Rogers also provides IPv6 and Bell doesn't. I get a /56 prefix, which includes 256 /64 prefixes. Each /64 has 18.4 billion, billion addresses available. I can assign separate /64s for my main LAN, guest WiFi and more. Also, those addresses are not hiding behind NAT, so I can reach them from elsewhere. Rogers also provides a /64 on cell phones.
Bell's IPv6 on cell phones, where it's mandatory for 4G & 5G is broken.

 

[velocci]

Hi all, does anyone know for sure what the upload speeds are for each internet package they have in Ontario? I asked a few of them but they gave different answers and they didn't even sound sure. Does anyone know? I don't want to upload my internet package and still end up with the same upload speed.

 

[ExDilbert]

The 1.5Gb plan is 50Mb upload. 500Mb and 150Mb are 30Mb up. Below 150Mb it slows considerably, if any slower speed plans even offered. Just go to the Rogers web site and enter your location to see what is offered and the upload speeds for each plan.

 

[velocci]

The 1.5Gb plan is 50Mb upload. 500Mb and 150Mb are 30Mb up. Below 150Mb it slows considerably, if any slower speed plans even offered. Just go to the Rogers web site and enter your location to see what is offered and the upload speeds for each plan.

right now I have 150Mbps down which is enough for me. so I have to go upto 1.5Gbps just so I can get another 20Mbps upload. that's crazy. Rogers doesn't advertise their upload speeds on their site cause they know they are ridiculous and don't compare to Bell's speeds. I'm trying to convince my wife to move to Bell. but I can't tell her its cause I want high upload speeds because then she'll ask why do I need higher upload speeds. 😁

 

[ExDilbert]

Rogers has a special price on the 1.5Gb plan right now. It lasts 2 years and requires a contract if you can live with that.

I can't tell her its cause I want high upload speeds because then she'll ask why do I need higher upload speeds.

I guess a better reason is needed. 50Mb is not much of an improvement anyway.

 

[57]

Rogers does provide upload speeds. You have to click "check availability" and put in your address and the plans available to you are shown. See sample below:

Why do you need a higher upload speed?

 

[velocci]

oh I didn't know that. but we shouldn't have to put in our info just to find out the upload speed. they give us the download speed without entering info, why not upload? I need upload to do decent file sharing.

 

[57]

...they give us the download speed without entering info, why not upload?

Because some areas have been upgraded to fibre to the home (FTTH) and have higher upload speeds available. There are also some areas with higher download speeds up to 2.5 Gbps. They need to know your address to be able to tell you what's available for your location.

 

[57]

I honestly wish Rogers didn't have a special offer on the 1.5 Gbps package because a lot of people sign up and then can't get the 1.5 because their equipment is only capable of 1 Gbps, or they plug their Ethernet cable into to wrong port, or they use regular WiFi, etc.

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[ExDilbert]

I was surprised to see the 2.5 Gbps option. Then I put in my location. A lot of options disappeared, including that one.

lot of people sign up and then can't get the 1.5 because their equipment is only capable of 1 Gbps

The ethernet port and wifi potentially add up to more than 1.5Gbps. A 2.5Gb switch or, a direct connection to a PC or router with a 2.5Gb port should allow the full 1.5Gb as well.