[Humbar]

All Rogers Modems now have built in EMTA with a phone jack that they can provision should you want home phone. The older system had a separate EMTA that they used. I think for business applications and multi-line systems they still use a separate EMTA device which has multiple POTS ports on the back of the unit. They are all fed by coax on the input. What I'm not sure about is if Rogers still has customers using POTS lines from a Central Office using twisted pair connections.

 

[JamesK]

@Humbar

Several years ago, I was working on a project for Sprint Canada, where I was setting up ADSL shelves, which included phone lines. This was done in the Bell offices. Part way through that job, Rogers bought Sprint and killed my work. At that time, they inherited Sprint POTS/ADSL customers, but I don't know how long that lasted.

I came across that multi-line system when I was doing some work in State Farm offices, to set up VoIP phones and replacing the Cisco router with one that included a VoIP PBX.

 

[17671]

JamesK, I remember those days, We had Sprint Canada landline and xDSL connection in one of our offices.

 

[Humbar]

Curious if Bell still uses those now ancient DMS-100 switches in their Central Offices, or have they all internally been converted to VOIP?

 

[17671]

I would like to know as well. A warehouse I once worked at, there were stockpiles of DMS-100 switches. Apparently the owner was buying them from the telcos for dirt cheap. not sure what use they have now? maybe they are still used in other parts of the world?

 

[17671]

A lot of people do not know this but its not difficult at all to "backfeed" the dial tone from your Provider to your existing phone jacks. You also do NOT need to place the home phone device near your Demarcation jack to backfeed your inside jacks. Yes having a monitored alarm does make it complex, but it's not impossible, and to be quite honest, there are better and sometimes more affordable ways to monitor your alarm system that do not require a landline anymore. I have done this type work for years for people that have been turned down by their provider or offered no support.

 

[JamesK]

@Humbar

As I don't work for Bell, I can't say for sure, but it is likely. The DMS-100 hasn't been made for years, which means spare parts are scarce. At some point, the cost of maintaining them will become too much.

 

[JamesK]

@17671

I back around the time I started installing VoIP PBXs, someone I knew at work was buying up Nortel BCMs for the same reason. They were helping companies retain their investment in old tech.

 

[Humbar]

It would be interesting to know, not sure when they came out but suspecting in the 80's. If they are still working after 40 years that would be something. Some features would be incompatible with DMS 100 switches knowing VOIP has way more features.

 

[ExDilbert]

Rogers home phone offerings seem to change constantly. Here is the latest.

Rogers Voice - Cordless Landline Phone Bundles - Rogers

Learn more about Rogers Voice, which can be added to bundles with Rogers Xfinity Internet and TV.

www.rogers.com

 

[Humbar]

So $6 / month for outgoing Call Display Blocking? Who would do that, really, good luck to that person having anyone answer their phone that shows up as a "Private Number". I never answer calls with Private Numbers period.

 

[17671]

Rogers obviously hides the standalone price for home phone from their website. To Big companies like rogers, they would rather discount it and bundle the home phone with multiple other services instead of showing that they are losing customers.

 

[JamesK]

Some features would be incompatible with DMS 100 switches knowing VOIP has way more features.

I used to work with Adtran Atlas statistical multiplexers. There were some things where DMS switches weren't fully compatible with other makes. One example was that call display wouldn't work properly, IIRC.

 

[JamesK]

Rogers obviously hides the standalone price for home phone from their website. To Big companies like rogers, they would rather discount it and bundle the home phone with multiple other services instead of showing that they are losing customers.

Stand alone home phone would be very expensive. It's not to bad when bundled because other services are already paying for the connection.

 

[57]

So $6 / month for outgoing Call Display Blocking? Who would do that, really, good luck to that person having anyone answer their phone that shows up as a "Private Number". I never answer calls with Private Numbers period.

Especially when you can do it for free by dialing *67 before the number you're calling. Obviously you don't need to block all your outgoing calls...

I also don't answer any calls that are not in my phone's directory (directory includes my doctor, dentist, etc.)

 

[Humbar]

I don't answer any calls with blocked numbers or missing names in the number. They're 99 percent spam calls anyways. *67 doesn't work with all providers. With freedom mobile you use #31# before the number to block your call.

 

[ExDilbert]

I don't answer any calls with blocked numbers or missing names in the number.

A lot of medical centres, hospitals and doctors block call display and appear as "private" in caller ID. Even public phones in hospitals show as private. They are usually worth answering.

 

[57]

... *67 doesn't work with all providers. With freedom mobile you use #31# before the number to block your call.

This thread is about home phones. I believe *67 works with all home phone providers.

 

[57]

A lot of medical centres, hospitals and doctors block call display and appear as "private" in caller ID. Even public phones in hospitals show as private. They are usually worth answering.

Yes they do, but really they shouldn't, unless they are something like a women's shelter. I suppose if someone is expecting a call from such a place, they should pick up the phone if they see "private". Our doctor, dentist, dermatologist, GI clinic, hearing clinic, optometrist, all show properly, most even with name display.

 

[Humbar]

*67 does not work with Freedom Mobile, like I said above they use #31# instead of *67 and I think its the same with Rogers as well.