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Discussion starter · #61 ·
But not on Roku, or LG TV ... and others. I haven't bothered to plug in my Fire stick for a long time, since Crave was added to Roku ... not sure why CTV/Bell always seems so far behind.
 
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nfitz said:
... not sure why CTV/Bell always seems so far behind.
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It's not a Bell issue, it's a Canadian broadcasting issue. Canada tends to be years behind the US with broadcasting innovations. Bell is typically years behind their US counterparts. Other Canadian broadcasters are typically years behind Bell. Many services just seems to come up short or fail, like Rogers and Shaw with their Shomi streaming service.
 
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ExDilbert said:
It's not a Bell issue, it's a Canadian broadcasting issue. Canada tends to be years behind the US with broadcasting innovations. Bell is typically years behind their US counterparts. Other Canadian broadcasters are typically years behind Bell. Many services just seems to come up short or fail, like Rogers and Shaw with their Shomi streaming service.
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I disagree. Global's app is ubiquitous. CBC isn't years behind CTV.
 
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It's a good thing I didn't say they were all years behind CTV. Global's app may be ubiquitous but the ability to use it isn't. It requires a subscription to an expensive TV service. CTV has a similar restriction for most of their CTV network programming. Where is the Canadian counterpart to CBS All Access or even CBC's option to subscribe and remove ads for a monthly fee? Where is the Canadian counterpart to Hulu? In addition, many Canadian streaming apps get poor user reviews and the services are difficult to use in a browser compared to US services.

Again, it becomes evident that Canadian broadcasters buy up the rights to US programming so they are taken off US services and make them less accessible. Then they make viewing them on a substandard streaming service dependent on an expensive, outdated TV subscription that only serves to pad the bottom line for their parent companies. CBC may be the exception to that model but it also has a different business structure than networks like CTV and Global.
 
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ExDilbert said:
It's a good thing I didn't say they were all years behind CTV.
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You effectively did. You literally said " Other Canadian broadcasters are typically years behind Bell. "

As CTV is part of Bell, I'm not sure which broadcaster you were referriing to.

ExDilbert said:
Global's app may be ubiquitous but the ability to use it isn't. It requires a subscription to an expensive TV service.
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No it doesn't. You can get it with the very cheapest TV service. An expensive one is not required.
 
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CTV is only a small part of Bell's broadcasting operations. Typically is not all inclusive. It implies the general characteristics of a group but there may be exceptions.

The cheapest TV services are usually $20 to $25 plus proprietary equipment rental for a price of about $30 to $40. For that you typically get OTA stations plus a few mandatory channels. People in or near US cities get that for free with OTA plus much more with sub-channels.

Compare that to Hulu which is US$6 to US$12 with a choice of already owned media player. CBS All Access is US$6-US$10 plus media player. CBC is free or $6/mo without commercials. Disney+ is $8.99, and media player. Even premium services like Netflix and HBO Max are under $20 and don't require proprietary equipment rental. Those services often offer a 10% to 20% discount for annual subscriptions.

Another comparison would be Freeview in the UK. For the equivalent of under CAD$270/year ($25/mo) they get a package of channels that is equivalent to what Bell sells for $70/mo. That's about 1/2 the price. So why are Canadians in most of Canada forced to pay so much for TV that is free or much cheaper elsewhere. It's not like Canadian broadcasters do that good a job of delivering the TV they provide. A lot of their equipment, electronic guides and apps are unreliable and they fail to deliver a significant portion of the available programming for streaming or on demand.
 
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The CTV network was acquired by BCE Inc. in 2000, and it is now a division of the Bell Media subsidiary of BCE. Apart from the CTV network, which consists of a number of OTA channels, Bell Media also owns and operates TSN, TSN2, RDS, RDS2, RDS Info, CTV Comedy Channel (formerly The Comedy Network), Much, MTV, MTV2, Vrak, Discovery and various spinoff channels, BNN Bloomberg, CP24, CTV Sci-Fi Channel (formerly Space), Z, CTV Drama Channel (formerly Bravo), E!, Vu!, Venus, HBO Canada, Crave, Starz, Super Écran, Cinépop, Fashion Television, Canal D, CTV Life Channel, Canal Vie, iHeartRadio Canada and others. While some of those have been rebranded with the CTV name but are not part of the original CTV network. Many were acquired from other broadcasters such as Baton and Astral. CTV seems larger than it actually is due to aggressive promotion of the CTV name by Bell Media. Bell would like to shut down the CTV network but it would lose simsub rights on cable and satellite systems. If that happened, CTV would not longer exist apart from the rebranding of other operations.

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often involving some backwards foreign nation.
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Calling the UK a backwards foreign nation is quite extreme and is also false. Apart from land area, the UK is comparable to Canada in most respects. It's also the second largest economy in Europe. Or were you talking about the US which has backward social policies compared to Canada and the UK?
 
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ExDilbert said:
Calling the UK a backwards foreign nation is quite extreme and is also false. Apart from land area, the UK is comparable to Canada in most respects. It's also the second largest economy in Europe. Or were you talking about the US which has backward social policies compared to Canada and the UK?
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Both ... look how racist the UK is, with all the anti-Polish sentiment. I doubt the UK will even survive the decade, with increasing separation sentiment from Scotland and Northern Ireland.

And really, comparing Canada to the UK ... where you actually have to pay hundreds of dollars a year just to have a television that only picks up stuff other-the-air? It's over $20 a month.

I'm really not sure why you have to mansplain as much about Bell's history. We all lived it.
 
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The TV tax in the UK was originally to pay for the BBC. Now they get an entire TV service for $25/mo. The only issue I have with the UK model is that the fee is mandatory for anyone who owns a TV. On the other hand, the Canadian government uses about a billion dollars in general tax revenue to fund the CBC. That's mandatory even for people who don't own TVs and what we receive for that money pales in comparison to the BBC and Freeview. Then there are the mandatory surcharges and taxes on TV services in Canada. HST on a $100 TV service is $13/mo. BDUs and broadcasters must pay into various programming funds which also gets invisibly added to the bill. Add it all up and see how it compares to the UK system. At least the UK system is more transparent about what and how people pay for public broadcasting.

Try taking a look at the service some time and see what Freeview provides. That would cost at least $40/mo in Canada and that's from a cheap TPIA provider. Freeview is available on satellite and OTA. They have regional OTA antenna farms that provide full service of all national and regional channels to 90% of UK residents. Many Canadians are lucky to get one or two national and maybe a few regional stations. For that they often have to spend thousands of dollars on OTA gear. Of course, someone in the GTA would not experience the substandard service that most Canadians experience. The CN tower antenna is one of a kind in Canada and serves only a small geographical area. If any country is backward in TV technology, it's Canada. It was years behind the US and UK in adopting digital technology and still lags years behind in how well it is deployed.
 
#74 ·
CTV Channel Group Programming Highlights: Oct. 12-18

Thursday, Oct. 15
Secret Window – streaming on CTV Movies
The Messengers – streaming on CTV Movies
The Forgotten – streaming on CTV Movies
The Deep – streaming on CTV Movies
BABY TALK (Season 1 & 2) – streaming on CTV Throwback

CTV Digital celebrates Halloween during the month of October with the Halloween Hub, streaming on CTV.ca and the CTV App, with no subscription or sign-in required. The Hub features horror films such as FRIGHT NIGHT, NIGHT OF THE LIVING DEAD, and WHEN A STRANGER CALLS, among others; Halloween-themed episodes of CTV Throwback series such as COMMUNITY, DAWSON’S CREEK, and more; as well as Halloween-themed segments from CTV’s THE MARILYN DENIS SHOW and THE SOCIAL.
 
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MTV Programming Comes to CTV.ca and CTV App, Ahead of Season 4 of JERSEY SHORE FAMILY VACATION

With the MTV catalogue on CTV.ca and the CTV app, viewers can stream the current seasons of CATFISH, 16 & RECOVERING, TEEN MOM 2, 16 AND PREGNANT, and DOUBLE SHOT AT LOVE, following each episode’s weekly broadcast on MTV. As well, past seasons of the entire JERSEY SHORE franchise along with MTV classics like THE HILLS, LAGUNA BEACH, THE REAL WORLD, TEEN MOM OG, and MY SUPER SWEET 16, are all streaming now across all CTV digital platforms.

In addition, CTV.ca and the CTV App are now host to exclusive digital content from MTV like COOKING IN THE CRIB WITH SNOOKI AND JOEY and SPENCER PRATT WILL HEAL YOU. Viewers can also stream exclusive international MTV series like GEORDIE SHORE, TEEN MOM UK, and CELEBRITY EX ON THE BEACH, and the made-in-quarantine series MTV CRIBS UK: FOOTBALLERS STAY HOME and SERVED! With JADE THIRLWALL.

The all-new season of JERSEY SHORE FAMILY VACATION will be available on-demand at CTV.ca and on the CTV app, immediately after broadcast.
 
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CTV Channel Group Programming Highlights: Nov. 16-22

CTV Digital: Celebrate the holidays with the Holiday Hub, now streaming on CTV.ca and the CTV app, with no subscription or sign-in required. The festive collection currently includes holiday movies such as Hook, The Perfect Holiday, and Eight Crazy Nights, among others; holiday-themed episodes of CTV Throwback series such as BEWITCHED, DAWSON’S CREEK, WHO’S THE BOSS, MAD ABOUT YOU, and COMMUNITY; holiday-themed segments from Bell Media Studios’ THE MARILYN DENIS SHOW and THE SOCIAL; plus recipes, specials, and more, with content added regularly throughout November and December.

Monday, Nov. 16
A Perfect Christmas – streaming on CTV.ca’s Holiday Hub

Tuesday, Nov. 17
A Rose for Christmas – streaming on CTV.ca’s Holiday Hub

Wednesday, Nov. 18
Christmas in Angel Falls – streaming on CTV.ca’s Holiday Hub

Thursday, Nov. 19
THE RED TENT miniseries joins CTV Movies
Ben-Hur (2010) – streaming on CTV Movies
 
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