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Does anyone know the difference between these two types of recievers. Secondly, looking to upgrade by buying a new Yamaha reciever. Presently have the Yamaha RX-870 model. I use it mainly for watching movies.

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The Yamaha website has an excellent explanation of the differences.

The HTR is marketed to different stores and has slightly different specs.
 

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Take a peak at the 1500...I got it about 3 weeks ago...it really rocks. Amazing features and great sound on my paradigm Titans. Love the YPAO. On screen display is quite nice. The 2500 has a bette ron screen setup function and slightly more wattage as well.
 

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Take a peak at the 1500...

Can I ask you the price you paid for this 1500 model? Secondly, where?

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I live on Nova Scotia and got it for 750.00 bucks taxes in. I think that is a pretty good deal from what I could find out about that receiver.
 

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eljay said:
Yamaha receivers. The HTRs are box-store models, while the RX-Vs are "boutique" store models. The former are essentially identical to the latter, but less expensive.
The difference is the HTR specifications are set a 1 Khz and the RX-V are 20 hz to 20Khz. That is a bit bigger standard.
 

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Mole said:
The difference is the HTR specifications are set a 1 Khz and the RX-V are 20 hz to 20Khz.
Not from what I can see on the Yamaha site. I checked, as an example, the brochure for the HTR-5760. The RMS output power is listed for both:
- 8 ohms, 1KHz, 0.7% THD = 110W; and
- 8 ohms, 20Hz-20KHz, 0.06% THD = 95W.

The latter specs. and rating are what's on the site.
 

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Eljay,

Which specification is for which receiver? By the frequency ranges, It agrees with what I was thinking, slightly lower distortion over a much greater frequency range. I am sure that both are quite good but I think they would reserve slightly higher quality for the boutique style stores.




Not from what I can see on the Yamaha site. I checked, as an example, the brochure for the HTR-5760. The RMS output power is listed for both:
- 8 ohms, 1KHz, 0.7% THD = 110W; and
- 8 ohms, 20Hz-20KHz, 0.06% THD = 95W.

The latter specs. and rating are what's on the site.







 

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Many people who know nothing about receivers buy on the basis of Watts/channel and not much else. So, in order to compete, many manufactures use the "looser" spec so they don't lose business, sometimes even letting the distortion go up, because that gives you more watts.

What's important is the distortion, the W/ch at 20-20k at that distortion, and the damping factor, as well as the features you want and the sound you want.

Watts are extremely unimportant as you need to double the number of Watts for just 3dB, so the speaker choice is often more important, since speakers can have quite a variation in efficiency, as well as impedence.
 

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Got it,



Thanks for the clarification eljay.
 

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No problem! :D

Given that comparable RX-V and HTR models appear to have the same specs., I wonder whether Yamaha really does install higher-grade internals in the RX-Vs to make them superior to (and, therefore, worth any premium over) the HTRs, or whether the two lines are identical and the exclusive sale of RX-Vs through "boutique" stores is just a feel-good marketing ploy...
 

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I must admit that I do buy at the at the boutique stores because I am more comfortable buying from someone who knows more about the products than me. I am sure that such folks also exist at the big box stores but the extended warranty experts always serve me when I visit and I just leave feeling frustrated.

An equipment insider once told me that if a receiver passes the 20 Hz to 20 KHz test it becomes a RX-V if it fails but passes the 1Kh test it gets a different case and becomes a HTR I am not positive if this is true. I know for sure that I could not hear the difference between the scores in eljay’s post and the ones for the RX-V 2500 on the site but the boutique stores will probably still get my business because of the better customer service, better warranty experience and because both the wife and I think, the RX-V’s are prettier.
 

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They are exactly identical (in terms of spec). They even share the exact same service manuals.

Some features, however, have been disabled on the HTR models. Oh, and the cosmetics too... which IMHO tend to be classier.
 

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From Yamaha's U.S. site:
The RX-V line and the HTR line are produced in the same Yamaha factory using the same high quality parts throughout. The RX-V and equivalent HTR models have the same warranty periods, the same manufacturer's suggested retail price, the same features, and the same remote control units.
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The amplifiers in the HTR and RX-V units are identical but rated differently to comply with the accepted measurement standards of their respective channels of distribution. Both ratings are FTC approved and are designed to handle the dynamics of today's audio and video sources. The RX-V line has the power amplifiers rated from 20-20000 Hz. The HTR line has the power amplifiers rated at 1000 Hz. Both lines can reproduce the full frequency response of 20-20000 Hz.
 

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Mole said:
but the boutique stores will probably still get my business because of the better customer service, better warranty experience and because both the wife and I think, the RX-V’s are prettier. [/font]
To me, that is the ONLY reason to buy it from a specialised boutique store...and it is a valid one....Certainly not because of performance of the unit itself as I think that the only difference between the two lines is a marketing/marketshare motivation....nothing to do with performance or quality....
 

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Same question will goes for GM moto, why they made "Cavalier" and "SunFire" ... marketting and market share, they want to catch more cash be going both segment, but i must agree, Yamaha should rearrange the line to have more RX-V as a higher end, exemple, they will only made the RX-V from 7xx and upper and put the loader as HTR- so there is no overlaps so no doub and no question to ask :)
 
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