If you look closely I think you will find that the RX-V line will have aluminum knobs and faceplate. These will be plastic on the HTR. Other not so noticeable items might be matched resistors and capacitors on the upscale models. Gold plated jacks?eljay said:Congratulations on your new receiver!
As I mentioned at the top (and in a previous thread), the HTR and RX-V lines are essentially "spec-to-spec" identical. The only apparent difference is that the former line is intended for big-box stores while the latter is dedicated to "boutique" shops.
This is a limitation of the STB not your Receiver. It has happened to me too and I'm using a Pio receiver with a Rogers SA 3200 box (non HD). Also, I've experienced this issue at my in-laws place on their Rogers SA3250 (HD) and Pio HTIB. It's exactly what 57 said.. changes in signal from DD5.1 to DD2.0 for commercials or inconsistencies in the delivery of the digital signal from the satellite to the receiver itself. Could be a number of things.. I highly doubts in your your receiver end.Lord of Langley said:I am in a bit of a dilema. Currently have the new BEV PVR 9200 HDTV. So when I am watching a HD program through my Yamaha reciever and the audio signal automatically reads in tru " surround sound " , on certain times it switches for a second or so over to " dolby digital " and back again to tru surround. Is this due to the BEV signal? I experience this at times when watching, eg Monday Night Football and Rome. Does this happen to this particular model or other Yamaha models as well.
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MediaRoomManiac said:This is a limitation of the STB not your Receiver. It has happened to me too and I'm using a Pio receiver with a Rogers SA 3200 box (non HD). Also, I've experienced this issue at my in-laws place on their Rogers SA3250 (HD) and Pio HTIB. It's exactly what 57 said.. changes in signal from DD5.1 to DD2.0 for commercials or inconsistencies in the delivery of the digital signal from the satellite to the receiver itself. Could be a number of things.. I highly doubts in your your receiver end.
eljay The HTR line is the big-box store equivalent of their "boutique" store RX-V line said:The RXV's meets a much stricter standard for amplifers than the HTR line.
Yamaha says: "The RX-V line has the power amplifiers rated from 20-20000 Hz. The HTR line has the power amplifiers rated at 1000 Hz."
The point is: because HTR power is only given for one frequency and not the entire range, the HTR spec probably means there is a significant power drop off at the frequency extremes when all channels are in use.
In other words, Yamaha tests the boards (or parts and assigns them accordingly) and those that meet the much stricter specifications become RXV receivers and the rest become HTRs. Just because two systems have the same parts doesn't mean that some parts don't perform better. This is the same thing Intel does with processors, all the CPUs come from the same process but some become p4 3.6 ghz and others only 2.8 ghz (which they sell for a lower price). It doesn't mean that some 2.8's can't meet the stricter standard, it just means the 3.6's definitely will.
The bottom line is when looking at power ratings, try to get a rating that covers the full audio spectrum, not just one frequency where other frequencies may lag in at high power.
Essentially you pay for the higher rated performance. Whether you can tell the difference is another question. Presumably the stricter standard is necessary to ensure high quality.
Where did you read that ??? I beg to disagree....Read what Yamaha themselves say about the difference between the two lines....Pay attention to the third paragraph that states clearly that both lines are identical and then they go on to explain why the have the two lines and that is the real reason. The main (ungiven) reason they rate both lines differently is to avoid direct comparisons by the consumers in order to protect their specialised independant retailers profit margins and to have a larger market share but dealing with various types of retail operations avoiding conflicts between them...Furthermore, when you check the specs on equivalent units in the HTR line versus their RX-V line, they are identical....We are talking basecally of a marketing strategy that is quite common in many industries...orion456 said:The RXV's meets a much stricter standard for amplifers than the HTR line.
Where did you see a serious direct comparison test that said it did not have the same performance ???e268 said:If I buy the HTR line, I will always wonder what I am missing out since the amps are rated at 1000Hz only. On the other hand, if they are built with same quality parts, would we not expect them to have same performance?
The answer is quite simple if you read in between the lines of what Yamaha themselves say about the differences between the two lines. The reason they do this is to avoid direct comparisons by consumers between the two lines to protect their specialized small independant retailer's network profit wise...e268 said:But, why would Yamaha put out units with the same guts, but different face plate and sell for less? Why would Yamaha not make a few extra dollars by lowering the standard a bit to pass at 1000Hz? If one does not care about the rating, then HTR is a good buy, but if one is a true hi-fi enthuist, then RX-V line will put their mind to rest.