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Great! Now my Guide is returning "no data available" for the second listing I added. I'm blaming you CJT!!

So, following my own advice, I checked the event viewer. Like you, the MCUpdate event shows a successful update on both Guide IDs.

BUT. A little before that there is an mcstore event that reported,
"Recovery of guide listings and recording schedule is complete."

Perhaps you can confirm same in your logs? I suspect it rolled back the ATSC hack.

Anyway, I reinserted the second Guide ID and all is good. I'm waiting to see if mcstore will run again and screw up the Guide.
 

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j0dest3r, I have tried to find a shortcut like this too, and could only find the method in Peter's instructions which is the long procedure of setting up then go under the About Guide to get the guide ID. The best compromise I found was to peak at the zap2it website for many zipcodes around the region I wanted, pick the one with the most matching channels then ask zap2it to fill the gaps by asking them to add the missing channels in the guide (all of which were reasonably expected to be picked up from that zipcode)
 

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If you head off to http://mc2xml.my3gb.com/ you can download(if it's not down, which is often but brief) the exe and use it to create xmltv files that you can edit/view. That will provide you with microsoft ID but mc2xml uses only the "legacy" service that does not include image metadata. In my case I have listings from four cities (250+ channels) reduced down to the 17 channels I need.
 

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where can one find these guide IDs easily from zap2it?
I don't think these quide IDs are generated by Zap2it - I think they are generated by MC, but I could be wrong. Peter has started a thread here to ask people to post their guide IDs but it hasn't gained much traction.

You can find the IDs for specific channels in Zap2it. When I browse the TV Listings at Zap2it for my postal code and my provider it does show a lineup ID in the URL but I don't know that this is the same as the guide ID. In my instance, for Rogers Digital in Scarborough, the lineupID is "&lineupId=0005585:X"
 

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This is the channel info generated for terrestial Global Ottawa but from the zip for Red Mills,NY. I use this location because the Canadian sources do not offer digital info (HD, aspect) but the US listings do. Mabye that has or will change.

The channel id # is what you need

I66.263929820.microsoft.com


<channel id="I66.263929820.microsoft.com">
<display-name>66 CIIIDT6</display-name>
<display-name>66</display-name>
<display-name>CIIIDT6</display-name>
<display-name>CIIIDT6 - OTTAWA ON</display-name>
<display-name>Canadian Independent</display-name>
</channel>

It doesn't matter much where the listing is from, as long as it's for the correct station regardless of the channel # asssigned in that broadcast area.
 

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@ flavoie

Hi,

Yes, I can watch the newly created WNYF-LD channels from Media Center.

Yes, I can record those two new added channels - both instantly as a programme is being aired and by setting up a manual recording.

I have them in the guide, but thay have not been populated with programme information yet - I'm still getting "No Data Available."

I'll keep trying to get the guide to fill in the "blanks."
 

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dundasguy, that's great. I know I can transition to a US setup thanks to you.

To add the guide to your newly added channels, you need to do it manually like this: when you're in the Guide, click on the channel number and name button on the left side, then on the next screen, click on Edit Channel, then on the next screen, click on Edit Listings, then on the right side, scroll up to WNYFLD for when you're changing 28.1 and scroll up to WNYFL2 when you're changing to 28.2 , when prompted choose Copy Listings. Then click Save. Repeat for the other channel. After you click Save it should be effective.
 

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Hello,
I'm using mc2xml with guidehound EPG importer to get my Canadian guide listing into my U.S. based system.
(I'd love to use Peter Nears method but I have no way of knowing the BellTV (east) guide ID since I have a digital only tuner, if somebody can give me that I'll change my method completely)
With DST change last night all of my imported Canadian channels are 1 hour off. I thnk the problem must be with the xml file created by mc2xml although when looking at it with notepad I can't see any time information.

Any Ideas?

Disregard: No more BS!!! with guidehound and mc2xml.
I found the zipcode that includes all the channels in my area. If you're in Montreal set your system up using 12919. You get 2, 6, 10, 12, 15, 17, 24, 35, and 62.
 

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Hey everyone. I'm in Toronto just bought the Channel Master 4221 antenna but having issues with Media Center after following these guides. I connected the antenna to my HD TV directly and it got 25 HD channels all look perfect and clear. I then did a fresh install of Win 7 on my PC with my Hauppage 1600 WinTV card and first ran the enable ATSC hack on here and then had media center scan for channels. It did its scan but only found 8 for some reason. I then tried to manually add the rest of them.

Someone on here said you put the virtual channel as the 9-1 for example then under frequency you put the actual channel number. So for CTV I tried 9-1 and then 9 for frequency. Media centre worked picked it up fine. However when I add global, NBC, ABC, PBS, OMNI etc none of them work. I'm using the frequencies from remote central, so Global for example I put 41-1 and then frequency 41. Media Centre just shows a black screen and after 30 seconds says can't get the channel check the antenna.

When connected to my TV I have the option to have the TV show me the channel strength. Each of those channels is 100% fully green, where as others that are like 20% and red come up in media center, so it can't be strength. Even if I use the built in thing in media center to view channel strength it shows a high signal on these channels, I just can't seem to tune them. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong or missing something here? Is it possible that it's a cabling issue even though my HDTV picks them up no problem? 25 to 8 seems like a huge amount to have media centre not be able to receive though.
 

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oshkosh, get yourself a TVFool report. It will tell you the real and virtual numbers you can input in 7mc.

1- Are you using a different cable than what went to your TV, and are you now splitting the signal ? If the cable ends are not done properly, you will lose at lot of signal. Look for compression type connectors if you want a job well done.

2- You should try to scan the channels with the same cable at the same location, without splits, same as when you did it with your TV.

3- Your Hauppauge 1600 is not as good as your TV tuner. It is my worst tuner for sensitivity. But check the above points first.
 

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Thanks for the help. The cabling is the same as the one going into the TV I literally unplugged and plugged into the PC. It is split though and is travelling a long distance as I just hooked this up as a test.

What I did was disconnected the antenna and moved the PC upstairs and connected directly to the antenna using a 6' cable. This time it picked up 20 channels on the media centre, almost all except CityTV. So seems like it's just picky and the distance and cabling used.

The weird thing though is I face south and my bedroom is on the 3rd floor so I just quickly set up my ChannelMaster to face south off the balcony. The TV got all 25 channels right away. When using media centre, if I would turn the antenna slightly one way, I'd lose global and get another, then turn it another way and visa versa. So I guess it's partially the 1600 just not being that great of a tuner. I didn't realize it wasn't that good but at least seems to have solved the problem. Going to do proper wiring soon and will see how many channels I get. Thanks!
 

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This might be a dumb question but if I have an antenna and 1 WinTV card and I get every channel except City (and if I move the antenna I then get city plus every channel but not Global), can I get a second antenna just for city and then have the 2 connect to my WinTV card using a splitter? Or would I need to buy 2 WinTV cards with one being just for City?
 

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There's a some ways, but also some gotchas to combine antennas, you can have a look here (you can have worse results): http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=95148

The easiest is if you have 2 dedicated tuners for your 2 antennas. You can tell Media Center which channels tuner A+AntennaA can get and which channels tuner B+AntennaB can get, and Media Center will do the rest. This is under the Sources option when you Edit Channel. You would only do this change under Sources for your 2 problematic channels, Media Center could record any other channel from any of the 2 available tuners.
 

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Thanks makes sense.

I need some more help pulling my hair out. The other day I installed Windows 7 on my new desktop from scratch, installed my HVR-1600 card, and then ran the enable ATSC bat file. I then set it up according to the directions and all worked well. I then did the enable multiple guide listings to get all the listings.

I was having issues with my Xbox connecting so I formatted and did a fresh install. Before setting up the TV I tested the Xbox and now it does work which is good, however I'm having trouble setting up the TV.

I ran the enable ATSC bat file but this time I accidentally ran the multiple guide listing file as well before I tried to set anything up in media center. Now when I set it up I enter canada, and my postal code, it then does the detecting tuner settings. AFter awhile it comes back and says it detected 1 ATSC tuner so I click next to set it up. It then pops up saying Guide Listings not available, ATSC guide listings are not available for your area. I click okay. Then it says it is going to set up media center using my 1 ATSC tuner so I click next. It then immediately says setup failed and cannot continue for an unknown reason.

Any ideas how to fix this? The only thing I did differently was run the multiple guide listing hack before setting up the TV, other than that it's 100% the same as the other day.
 

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Sorry everyone ignore my last question I got it sorted out had to uninstall media centre and delete it's database files. I just have one last question because I want to make sure I'm doing this all properly. After playing with this late into the night, I seem to have guide and everything working but I just want to be sure. It seems like the instructions for the multiple guide hack assume you have local cable or something to actually get local guide data.

*My setup is I'm in Toronto beaches, have a CM4221, I have no cable, satellite anything just antenna as I just cancelled FibeTV*

1) I enabled the ATSC hack for Media Centre and ran the setup for Canada with my postal code. It detected the ATSC but I said do manual setup and I selected that I have cable. I then said set up digital ATSC tuner and it showed it would set it up with the 2 tuners.

2) This downloaded all of the local channel data as SD since I picked cable. I tried digital cable but it wanted an IR blaster and wouldn't detect mine but I assume picking analog only means it doesn't show the HD icon on the guide?

3) I then ran the USGuide.bat file as administrator and first selected 4 for Toronto. That loaded guide data in for the US channels in the area like Buffalo ones.

4) When I went into Guide settings in media center, I was then able to edit listings on all the channels, using the Rogers digital cable guide data for the local channels, and then the US data for the Buffalo ones.

So everything seems to work. But I have a few questions. First off, is what I did correct? My concern is that in Media Centre if I click Get Latest Guide Listings, it says the thing about downloading the guide listings you will be notified when the download is complete.

A minute or so later it pops up saying guide download error, guide could not be downloaded etc. So that's the only thing that concerns me but I'm not sure if that's normal, as the USGuide.bat script I think is what is downloading the guide daily and not media center? Or is this error just referring to the ATSC guide data? Is there any way to check the status of the USGuide script? I'm just concerned that I'll have the TV running, go away on business and family will call one day saying there's no guide or something.
 

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If you don't have satellite or cable just set your system up using a u.s. zip code in Buffalo.
No need to enable ATSC or import guide info from another source.
The only trick is to find the zip code that will include all the channels you receive. Go to the zap2it website and try a few out.
 
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