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I have a Nokia E61i I bought years ago unlocked. I used it on Rogers.

I am now with Telus and I'm sending my phone in to be repaired and would like to use the Nokia during the time my phones away. Will it work?

Thanks in advance!
 

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No, your Nokia E61i should not work on the Telus/Bell 3G (HPSA) network. A quick look at the specs http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_e61i-1858.php show the phone's 3G mode is only UMTS 2100. As outlined in the first post of this thread, Bell/Telus require UMTS/HSPA 850MHz and/or 1900MHz.

In addition, your Nokia E61i will only work on 2G (GSM/EDGE) networks in Canada, as no one uses UMTS 2100 (its primarily a Europe/Asia/Africa standard). Bell/Telus do not operate a 2G network, although as you pointed out, Rogers does.
 

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Actually, Bell and Telus have been calling their CDMA networks 3G since before their HSPA network was live. However, whether it's 3G or not isn't really relevant, as I would assume that he was referring to GSM/EDGE networks.

Also, as I'm sure you well know, like almost every GSM or HSPA device, the E61i will not work on the Bell or Telus CDMA networks, so they are irrelevant in this case, and not worth mentioning other than to confuse the issue.
 

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Somebody should educate the Bell CSRs

I went through all the messages in this thread because I had my eye on a GSM-only phone and wanted to try it with my Bell SIM card. The phone would have been ideal for my use but I wanted to be sure it would work before buying one.

Two different Bell CSRs emphatically stated that "any GSM" phone would work on the Bell network.

I was doubtful - and sure enough when I put my SIM card in the phone it wasn't recognized.
 

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A GSM only phone will never work on Bell, as they've never used that system. 3G phones will work, whether they have GSM or not.
 

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As long as that 3G phone has UMTS or HSPA support for Bell's two frequencies.

But yes, Rogers operates the only national 2G/GSM network in Canada.

I found that Bell CSRs used to be very good about that. I suppose with sales of GSM only phones becoming rare in Canada, they no longer felt the need to be specific in training.
 

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I have a phone I was using on the Rogers network. It is a ZTE Blade II. All it got on the Rogers network was the EDGE connection. I have switched to KOODO (Telus) but I tried the old phone on the network today and couldn't get a signal from any tower except ROGERS. No bell, no telus, no koodo.

Will it work, or only intermittently or what?

Network Technology GSM/GPRS/EDGE/HSDPA
Band GSM 900/1800/1900 (Tri-Band) HSDPA 900/1900/2100
 

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Are you at least in a 3G coverage zone? (in this case, I'm referring to HSPA+ coverage -- not CDMA). If not, the phone won't work at all, since Telus/Bell (and their sub-brands) don't support GSM/EDGE service.

Given that on Rogers you'd only see EDGE coverage, I'm guessing that you are in a rural area. In that case, I'm sure the carriers would be more likely to use the 850MHz frequency so that it can cover longer distances with fewer towers.
 

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HSPA 850MHZ phone

My phone has HSPA at 850MHZ /900MHZ/2100MHZ and UMTS at 2100MHZ.

Can I use it with having only HSPA 850MHZ in Canada? If it does, how well does it work?

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You can, but coverage will be limited. It's really hard to say where it will work and where it won't though, since AFAIK it's not widely known where carriers are using the 850MHz vs 1900MHz frequencies.
 

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Hi folks, I just bought this phone from Pandawill, a 5.8" MIZ Z3 - The phone itself is excellent, running 4.2.1, 5.8" 720p and came with a universal charger, a north american to euro plug adapter, a silicon back case, a smart cover with a back built into it, 2x3300mah batteries, earbuds, sync cable and a screen protector, I picked it up for 224 + delivery (about 17.00) great unlocked phone about 2x as fast as my galaxy note 1

Anyways this is my first post here on this forum and I have just finished reading this thread. I will check out rogers as I am on virgin mobile (bell/telus) and have only been able to make 2 calls to a land line all day with my VM sim, Unfortunately it seems to be hampered by the issues that others with imported phones are mentioning, the improper 3g/gsm frequencies although it is a dual dim quad band phone.

I would like to have a data plan with it, are people just using the talk+text+internet ? or do you get edge data with just the talk + text plans?

I'll head there tomorrow to try out a sim, any insight would be great.

cheers, L
 

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That phone only has HSPA 850, it's missing 1900. It can only ever get partial coverage on the Bell/Telus network.

On the Rogers network, it would have full GSM coverage but limited HSPA. In most areas, this means you will be fine for calls and texts, but will be limited to 2G data some of the time.
 
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