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That's been done already. Standalone DVRs are available that will record directly from composite video sources or broadcast TV. Check the Over-the-Air (OTA) Television Forums and search the main page for DVR. And, just to prove that PCs are not useless, I've been doing it with a PC for about 15 years.

Shaw satellite receivers are basically just a dedicated Linux computer with a satellite tuner added. DVRs and PVRs are just the same thing with a hard drive added. Any DVR is going to cost more than $99. The hard drives alone cost close to $99 and the computer, tuner and product development costs also need to be recovered. Shaw sometimes give away PVRs but recover the cost with inflated programming charges.

Anyone who wants to write a book a page at a time on paper is not being realistic. Yes, it was done for many years but it was a long and tedious process. Apart from maybe using vinyl records, there are very few people who want to go back to 1970s technology. The 1960s were better anyway. Sony transistor radio with 50% distortion and batteries that need replacing every 2 hours anyone? How about a 19" black and white TV with an incredibly bad picture that only receives 12 channels? Maybe a rotary home phone on a party line with 12 other people would be better entertainment. Can I interest you in a car that rusts out in 8 years from road salt and emits huge amounts of toxic pollution. Also up for grabs, a manual typewriter that is only capable of printing one letter at a time. Whiteout hasn't been invented yet so if you make a mistake the entire page has to be retyped.
 

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Anyone who wants to write a book a page at a time on paper is not being realistic. Yes, it was done for many years but it was a long and tedious process.
regarding the word processor / printer rolled in to one. That would not be very compact.
The paper required to print your book would be bigger than the device itself.
You insert 1 page at a time into the slot at left side of laptop keyboard, you type 1 page worth of words, make all the edits(easy viewable on laptop screen), then press enter and its printed on that 1 page that exits out at right side of keyboard slot. Always 1 page at a time, similar to when they insert 1 page into a typewriter but it would be a laptop. When writing a story from the beginning, it takes hours and even days, months of composing and editting 1 page at a time, so the extra seconds it takes to print 1 finished page is nothing.
 

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There's still the printing mechanism. Lasers and ink jets have mechanical parts that take space. There are printers that take little space, but require special paper that's a) expensive and b) fades with time. Do you really want that?

Just wanting something doesn't make it possible. Available technology and the laws of physics come into play.
 

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Inflated prices for supplies would be a huge issue. It could cost in the hundreds of dollars to print a single book. :eek: I suggested a monochrome laser printer because printing costs tend to be much more reasonable. Compact models are available if size is an issue. Why not just glue a compact laser printer on the back of word processor? It would fulfill the requirements and be less less ugly than a 1970s electronic typewriter.
 

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Why not just glue a compact laser printer on back of word processor?It would fulfill requirements
You mean that laser printer and a seperate word processor would print on paper without a seperate computer? Great idea.(not everything has to be done by using a computer ya know). I checked some reviews on amazon about a compact laser printer monochrome, it has a 16 charactor LCD display but sadly no built in keyboard(hahaha,but why not?), can it connect to a ps3 by USB?

On one or more of my posts on this thread, I typed the most words i can possible on my ps3, if i did this as i type my story on my ps3(and can easily make edits), all i need to do is view the edited work on screen, press triangle on ps3 hand controller, click file, then "print this screen" and it will print on paper by whatever printer thats compatible with ps3. Maby an app on the ps3 store will improve this. Its going to be a small 40 or 50 page book anyways.(really really weird story though).Thanks for replies.
 

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I was joking about the glue. :D But yes, many modern laser printers can connect directly to any compatible device with USB, LAN or wifi. USB is the most common connection but LAN and wifi are becoming more widely available. I can print directly to my laser printer using any compatible networked device like a PC, word processor or by using the printer manufacturer's Android app on a phone or tablet. It can also print documents from a USB flash drive. Some printers require special drivers but others use standard formats that are recognized by many devices. Just make sure the printer is compatible with your word processor of choice before purchase.
 

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Sounds good that all is needed is 1 printer and 1 word processor to print your words on paper. Sometimes if you just need 1 item, like lets say 1 bass woofer, you don't want to buy a whole stereo speaker set with the works and a receiver. Although buying 2 items(a printer and a word processor) for 1 purpose is still great but buying 1 item for 1 purpose is even better.

NOW about my 3d printer idea. Yes since 3d printers are known to make 3d objects layer by layer by using material. Can it make paper? How about a compact 3d printer with built in word processor and easy to read display and keyboard. Just type out your page of words, make edits, press enter and watch it print 1 solid (thin,flat) page of paper with of course whatever you typed.(or 100 pages, depending on how many words you typed). i really think there will be a 3d printer word processor just for this 1 purpose in the future- "not only it prints on paper, it makes the paper too".
 

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Possible but probably not practical. Consider the cost. 3D printer, at least $1000 vs $100 (approximate depending on model.) 3d paper, unknown but made of plastic and most likely a lot more than the $0.01 a page for regular paper. 3d printer, complex software that requires a PC vs relatively simple text printing software.
 

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I have a computer, but its a work laptop so I only use it for Work, but when I am not working, most of the time I am using my Android Tablet, It happens to be a Galaxy Tab 10, however I would like to move away from Samsung and move to LG in the not so distant future, I find LG to be higher quality product and want to un-associate myself with samsung.

Now with that said, I was able to download a WORD PROCESSOR onto my tablet, the word processor is called Microsoft Office, it was available on the Android App Store, I also have my house printer connected to my home network and the Cloud print driver installed properly on my Tablet AND phone. So basically if I really wanted to, and I have in the past, I can type out, and edit documents ON MY TABLET OR SMART PHONE, and PRINT THEM to my cloud connected printer WITHOUT HAVING A PC.

This has been possible for me for now what? 2 years and counting, not to mention my tablet also came with other word processing applications but I prefer the Microsoft one. I don't see the big issue here, This IS possible and probably going to be the norm now because a lot of people are slowly moving away from PC and moving to Tablet like devices
 

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@Paolo, Are you using a keyboard with the tablet? If so, is it connected with bluetooth?

I would think a book written on a computer would be easier to edit.
Everything about writing a book on a computer should be easier. Don't know what most hardware or O/S professional authors are using or which software most prefer. Personally, I detest MS Word for writing anything. It's just too slow and buggy and it's the only text editor I've used that has caused the loss of entire documents (on more than one occasion.) There must be better software available for professional writers.
 

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Personally, I detest MS Word for writing anything. It's just too slow and buggy and it's the only text editor I've used that has caused the loss of entire documents (on more than one occasion.) There must be better software available for professional writers.
Well, there are LibreOffice and OpenOffice.

There is also Scribus for desktop publishing.
 

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The Word documents were lost some time ago, when Word was a lot worse that it is now (Word 95 probably.) However, it left a bad, long lasting impression. Never mind all the MS Office security issues that have emerged since. It's just not worth it for a casual user.

I've used LibreOffice for some time and OpenOffice before that. For simple text only stuff I use TED Notepad.
 

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Simple text editing, and reading source code, I use VIM in the shell.
Something worth printing, I would use LibreOffice and just Print to PDF and email it or whatever.
I don't think I have bought ink in at least a year, and the printer
wouldn't work if I wanted it to. Save a Tree...
 

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publishing accept paper anymore?written on computer easier to edit
I hope they still do. i dont know, is there a chance come 2040 when you say the word, "paper" to any person 20 years old and younger theyre going to say, "whats paper?"

Theres 1 more good possibility of typing out my book in this modern age. I could take another chance hoping it won't get busted during transit and buy another electronic typewriter that includes white correction ink ribbon but no word processor and no small lcd display. I could then easily type and edit my whole story on my ps3(using ps3 hand controller + virtual keyboard-SEE IM INTO MODERN TECH) and save each completed chapter in parts to the drafts section of my internet webmail account.Then open the first saved draft part very easily viewable on my big 30" full screen color tv(a screen not compact but looks amazing and is a comfort to view) and type 1 page at a time.Im glad its only going to be a 40 page book before the typewriter breaks,haha!
 

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I'm just shaking my head at the amount of hoops you are going through and expecting others to go through. There's little chance an agent (you basically need one of those if you're submitting a manuscript to a publishing house), publisher, editor, and proofreader (as it's quite unlikely your work will remain untouched) are going to pass a paper manuscript around. Even less chance if you're an unknown author.
 
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