Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums banner

21 - 32 of 32 Posts

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
56,441 Posts
Someone is willing to give me his iPhone 5S which was on Bell but has the SIM removed and I have a few questions:

1. Can I call Bell to unlock the phone, or does he need to?
2. I assume it'll be easy for me to use it on the Rogers network (once unlocked) - although I'll need to perhaps pay for a SIM?
3. I currently have a Samsung Flip-phone from 2009 with a SIM. Will that SIM work in the iPhone 5S and will I be able to have the same number as with the old Samsung?
4. We don't use our existing phone very much, so I'm assuming that I could use the iPhone on Rogers PAYGo (prepaid).
5. One of the reasons for getting the iPhone is for my wife to be able to "control" her hearing aids, so phoning with it is secondary really.
6. Since I have had no use for a smartphone to this point, is there something about the 5S that I should be aware of?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
8,598 Posts
1. Most likely he needs to ask Bell. They have a fairly high fee. It might be cheaper to use another service.
2. That depends on the phone. Every model is different. The phone's information page might provide a model suffix or qualifier that can provide more detailed info. Some models are custom made for carriers, others are country or region specific and a few are universal. I'm not up on all the frequencies and finer details. One site that might provide enough info is Phone Arena. Another way to find out is to find the exact model for sale unlocked and see what networks they say are compatible.
3. Not 100% unsure about iPhones but for unlocked phones it's usually as simple swapping the SIM. The phone number and account information should remain the same. Another issue is SIM size. There are 3 standard sizes. Most newer phones use the micro-SIM. Universal SIMS can be trimmed easily to fit any phone. The contacts are identical for all 3 sizes.
4. Shouldn't be an issue as long the phone is compatible with Rogers network. We've move several phones over to a PAYGO service that uses Rogers network. The only catch was entering Rogers' network details to get data working. iPhones reportedly do that automatically.
5. I rarely use my phone for conventional phone calls. Even those are often done using a free VoIP app over wifi.
6. I use Android so can't help with Apple stuff that much. As long as the 5S is still supported there should be no issues.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,198 Posts
Bell should do it for free even if you call them. They were picky at first about having Bell customers call for unlock codes, but they changed their tune when enough people started complaining.

With iPhones, there's also no "code" to enter like on other phones. Once Bell unlocks it, they essentially update the IMEI number in an Apple activation database. Then when the phone is reset, it will be unlocked during the initial setup process.

https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT201328

(Note - you won't have to reset the iPhone each time you switch SIM cards after the unlock is done)

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,727 Posts
Someone is willing to give me his iPhone 5S which was on Bell but has the SIM removed and I have a few questions:

1. Can I call Bell to unlock the phone, or does he need to?
2. I assume it'll be easy for me to use it on the Rogers network (once unlocked) - although I'll need to perhaps pay for a SIM?
3. I currently have a Samsung Flip-phone from 2009 with a SIM. Will that SIM work in the iPhone 5S and will I be able to have the same number as with the old Samsung?
4. We don't use our existing phone very much, so I'm assuming that I could use the iPhone on Rogers PAYGo (prepaid).
5. One of the reasons for getting the iPhone is for my wife to be able to "control" her hearing aids, so phoning with it is secondary really.
6. Since I have had no use for a smartphone to this point, is there something about the 5S that I should be aware of?
Answers:
1. It should be the seller who should unlock the phone before giving/selling it to you, After all, it *might* be able to be unlocked by the buyer but its not guarenteed and not always easier.
2. Are you an existing customer already or a new customer? if you are a new customer, the process is the same except you are not buying a device so monthly plans might be *cheaper*
3. depending on the sim card size, likely not, iPhones use a smaller size sim card, but the good news, is newer sim cards have all 3 sizes in one card with knockouts, you just punch out the size you need and the sim card becomes the size, if your current sim card is not like this, you simply buy a new one and ask your carrier to swap your account from the old sim to the new one
4. you can use an iphone on any type of cell service, pre-paid or post paid, now just word of advice a lot of the data specific iphone apps may need data to work so u might get a lot of nag messages or so that they can not connect, not sure but you can always disable some of them
5. if that is the case, then should be ok, there are other phones out there with hearing aid compatibility too, so please check the specs if u wish to know more
6. as long as u dont setup or use any of the apps that require data connections you should be okay.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
304 Posts
57:
Suggest skip the cellphone part of it and use the Wi-Fi capabilities only, if used only in house for such as hearing aids (which may be bluetooth connection). Apple has a bad habit of eating up lots of data if connected via a SIM.
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
56,441 Posts
Thanks for the tips so far.

1. I will ask the person to unlock it, rather than me trying after the fact. I just hate to put him to the trouble since he's giving me the phone, but perhaps it's not that much trouble.
2. I'm an existing Rogers PAYGo customer on the Grandfathered Anytime plan - $10/mo, rolls over, etc. This plan is no longer available. I may switch plans if I decide to do more with the phone.
3. Since my Samsung Flip is 9 years old, the sim may not fit, but I believe you can get a new one from any Rogers store for about $10.
4. Is there a way to "globally" disconnect cell data on the phone? I plan to use it WiFi 99% of the time and only use it to text or phone for an emergency. I may even download something like WhatsApp to text/call by WiFi.
5. Since this phone is "free" I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth.
6. Understood.
7. Yes, the hearing aids will use Bluetooth. There's an app and also the accessibility portion of the phone.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,198 Posts
Yes, you can actually turn off cell data quite easily in the Settings menu.

Sent from my Pixel 2 XL using Tapatalk
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
8,598 Posts
3. A lot of SIMS are "3-in-1" and have breakout tabs. If it's not, there should be no issue in replacing the SIM without any account changes. Most new phones use the micro-SIM which is the smaller of the three. Activating the SIM and registering the phone should be possible online.
4. It should be fairly easy to turn data on and off. The same with wifi. I leave data off and wifi on unless I am out of wifi range and need data. PAYGO data is often too expensive to let the phone use it for things like background app updates.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,051 Posts
Since Bell uses CDMA technology, will the phone work on a GSM network such as Rogers. Or is the ability to work on various networks built into the cell phone?
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
8,598 Posts
It's built into the phone. Network support is determined by the protocols and frequencies that are supported by the phone's hardware. Network protocols and frequencies can vary significantly by region, country and carrier. Support is also limited by the protocols and bands in use at the time of manufacture. That's compounded by some carriers selling phones that are crippled to work with only their own networks. The situation is improving, especially in high end phones, as more phones are built to work with almost all networks in their intended region. Some phones are called universal but they sometimes won't work with carriers or in countries that use unusually configured networks. When buying unlocked phones, be very careful to buy phones made for the correct region. A phone made for Europe or Asia may not works well or at all in North America.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
4,727 Posts
Since Bell uses CDMA technology, will the phone work on a GSM network such as Rogers. Or is the ability to work on various networks built into the cell phone?
Bell has not sold a CDMA phone in ages and they are dismantling that network possibly by end of the year, but Bell does not use just CDMA only, they also use 3G HSPA and 4G LTE just like the other big guys (Rogers, Telus)
 
21 - 32 of 32 Posts
Top