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Tilting Antenna for Better Reception

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Will angling an antenna upward improve reception?:confused:
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Antenna Tilting Theory and Practice

bsr2002 said:
Will angling an antenna upward improve reception?
Some people who are far away from desired stations get an improvement using slight tilting, and I've seen charts of recommended tilt based on distance to the transmission antenna. This has to do with the curvature of the earth and any obstructions in the way between the transmitter and the receiving antenna. Antenna tilting can work well for some people, but might have no effect at all for others. Tilting an antenna is a time consuming process since we're talking about a very small degree of arc to be adjusted each time you test.

If I, in the Vancouver area, am aiming for SeaTac stations, I need to bear in mind that 110 miles away a TV signal emanating horizontally from there is not arriving here horizontally, but rather with a slight upwards angle, so it is therefore theoretically most efficient to aim my antenna slightly downwards :) to match the angle. Having said that, in real-life practical terms pointing the antenna downward usually means worse reception! The usual method of tilting is to aim the antenna at the tops of the local trees and then testing, re-tilting, testing, repeating, etc. etc. to see if any improvement in signal strength is found.

Antennas on rotors are not good candidates for tilting. The tilt might be be efficient for one group of stations in one direction but not for others at a different bearing. For that reason tilting should rarely be used on rotor-mounted antennas.

Another situation that might call for tilting is if your antenna is statically mounted in line of sight to a broadcast tower, in which case you would tilt the antenna to point right at the top of that tower and run your signal strength tests. If you're using line of sight, a yagi is simple since you can aim it like a rifle. For a bowtie reflector, use a carpenter's square with the long section heading straight out from the centre so you can aim it like a rifle.

I hope this helps, and if I find any of those tilt calculators I'll post it in this thread. Is there a particular aiming scenario you are thinking about, bsr2002?
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Hi kgb, this is from Post #21 in the OTA FAQ:
Should I tilt my antenna up or down?
Most people can simply mount an antenna without tilting it, although in deep to deepest fringe areas it may sometimes be helpful to tilt the antenna upwards by 5 to 10 degrees if you can safely do some trial-and-error testing on distant, weaker stations. Pointing the antenna downwards is not an option. Sometimes there are situations in which the line-of-sight from an antenna to a broadcast antenna up on a mountain or tower is upwards, in which case tilting the antenna to match that line makes sense.​
For most people the idea of antenna tilt doesn't have much importance, but If you are in a deep to deepest fringe area and are able to change the angle of tilt then go ahead and do some tests and see which angle works best for you.

WIth a GH, 4 Bay, or 8 Bay antenna there's an easy way to change the tilt: just loosen the upper U-bolt nuts and then remove the lower U-bolt nuts, then insert several plate washers to force the lower part of the antenna to stick out a bit more, which increases the upwards tilt with each washer. Tighten them up and test.
Few if any of those clones are meant for deep to deepest fringe areas so I don't think any built-in tilt they offer will make much of a difference in typical urban to fringe usage.
jktan99 it may be tropo-related but I think it is because you angled your antennas too much - try restoring them to the way they were and see if that corrects the problems.
If tilting your antenna is the goal rather than finding the right height, my rule of thumb is to test with no tilt and then test again with tilts upwards between 1° and 10° to see if there is a benefit. That of course assumes you can reach the antenna safely! :eek:

From Post #21 in the OTA FAQ:
Should I tilt my antenna up or down?
Most people can simply mount an antenna without tilting it, although in deep to deepest fringe areas it may sometimes be helpful to tilt the antenna upwards by 5 to 10 degrees if you can safely do some trial-and-error testing on distant, weaker stations. Pointing the antenna downwards is not an option. Sometimes there are situations in which the line-of-sight from an antenna to a broadcast antenna up on a mountain or tower is upwards, in which case tilting the antenna to match that line makes sense.​
If you need to figure out a tilt angle to set and forget the antenna once-and-for-all then with TVFool you can experiment with different antenna heights, and with Google Earth you can use the perspective tool to place your line of vision from behind your antenna through it to the horizon to see how various tilts would look.

One last note: recently several people in the GTA area have tried tilting their antennas only to find that reception was significantly lessened on key channels. My advice is to test, test, test and be prepared to put things back to the way they were. The easiest way to do that is to make some guide marks with a permanent marker that allow you to reset the antenna to its standard tilt.
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That's good info to have - nice that AD put a tilter on it so they must have been aware that the Lacrosse can/should be tweaked for tilt. From Mississauga what tilt angle did you find the sweet spot at, RustyHD?
RamKat I think you missed the original thread so I've merged yours into it - see the previous posts for more advice on tilt.
Large bodies of water between TV antennas and stations can also require tilting to try to get over the "Lake Effect" or as we now call it on Canada's west coast, the "Straight Effect".
Camera Tripod for Indoor Antenna Tilting

A situation came up in which a person up near the top of a high rise wants stations from behind the building (through it) yet the building does not seem to allow good signal penetration from that direction.

A solution is to aim forward (out the front window away from the centre of the building) to hopefully pick up the rearward stations using reflections from nearby buildings.

This might require tilting to go along with standard azimuth aiming. My advice was that the person mount their ZSS-clone on a camera tripod so that left-right sweeps could be done along with easy adjustments to the tilt since neaby buildings come in all sorts of heights and angles. I hope it works out.

Just another example of tilting for the books. :)
I think you might want to post the topic into the Antenna Research & Development forum but in my own experience the very horizontal nature of TV reception means that in almost all situations skewing an outdoor antenna reduces signal.

With rabbit ears being used indoors the situation is quite different, so the odds of reflected signals not in the original plane are high and thus the eventual rabbit ears configuration might not be horizontal at all.
Tilter for Light Weight Antenna

New member drh9 mounted his DIY Channel 41 Yagi onto a satellite dish tilt mount on a J-pole:

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/album.php?albumid=375&pictureid=1673
That's great to get a free signal boost like that, chunkyal. :) Did you have to loosen the upper clamp to push the lower one out like that, or was it possible without doing that?
Tilting Antenna From Side-To-Side A Problem

Continued from the Mississauga reception thread:
little-infinity said:
I noticed my antenna is now tilted horizontally about 10 degrees. Could this be it? I don't understand. How can my tower be tilting this way? If this keeps up, my tower will be like the leaning tower of pisa within a month. Does horizontal tilt affect reception that much? I mean the antenna is still pointed in the right darn direction.
little-infinity said:
i meant it was tilting sideways, not forward/up. is that bad?
Having your antenna tilted off of horizontal but at the same target (like an airplane in a roll but still going forward) is not good! A very slight tilt of less than 5° will usually not show much difference but the problem is that the bad effects go way up rapidly as the tilt increases beyond that. You need to get it back to horizontal when it is safe to do that.

If you need more info on this you could read some of the Gray Hoverman threads in which members like 300ohm have computer-modeled the bad effects of non-horizontal antenna elements and reflectors.
Thanks for that great example! The farther away the antenna is from the desired station(s) the more critical the proper antenna geometry and aim becomes.
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