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There's also the issue of short seasons. When I was a kid, a season lasted 39 weeks. Now some shows call 8 weeks or so a "season". Also, years ago, if a new show started "mid season" it was to replace a show that bombed, not one that had a short season.
 

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Maybe I'm getting up there, but it's getting to the point where by the time the next season starts, I've almost forgotten what happened last season. Or I haven't forgotten but don't really care anymore.
 

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Many of the newer high-end Canadian dramas tend to have only 6 episode seasons. That's easily "I forgot I even watched the show"-tier.
 

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I had that feeling with Game of Thrones as the seasons unfolded and to be honest for this last one I really didnt care anymore... I just wanted it to be over.
 

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The 22+ episodes a season was mostly an American thing. The U.K. and other places had 13 episodes max. There's so much good stuff available now that I don't care how many episodes there are in a season. I'd rather watch 10, tightly written episodes than 22, stuffed with filler and flab.
 

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I'd rather watch 10, tightly written episodes than 22, stuffed with filler and flab.
I prefer 3, 4, 5, or 6 episodes to an obviously drawn out 10. It's getting to the point where some series are just too slow be be enjoyable. 22 episodes work for episodic shows where story lines are wrapped up in 1 or 2 episodes. It may work for a long or densely written book but 6 or 10 would usually be better. Traditionally, most book length stories were told in a 2 hour movie. That was often too short but stretching it out to twenty 55 minute episodes over two years is often a bit too extreme in the other direction.

The only reason the first 6 seasons of Game of thrones work as well as they do is because they are taken from 5 very well written books. Stretch it out too much, delay airing too long or use less capable writing and it fails, as can be seen in seasons 7 and 8.
 

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Another problem is they'll show a few episodes, then reruns, a couple more episodes, more reruns, etc. Sometimes the reruns will be from the current season, others from previous years. Very annoying.
 

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It's easy to see why that happens on network TV. New episodes of popular series are timed to coincide with sweeps ratings and the most popular viewings time slots. Get a conflict like top rated sports playoffs or a holiday weekend like Thanksgiving and they will show a rerun. Audience size is also why there are fewer new shows in Summer. It's all down to audience size and related advertising income. Premium specialty channels don't care as much as they rely only on subscription income and they let viewers catch up with VOD.

The future of TV is VOD. Netflix has set the bar by dropping complete new series, and multiple movies and specials every week. It's hard for specialty channels and networks to compete with that, especially when Netflix charges a fraction of the cost of a BDU TV subscription. That's why people are cutting the cord. It's only going to get worse as companies like Disney claw back their programming for their own streaming services. Conventional TV channels that don't produce their own content are going to run out of new programming and broadcasters will have difficulty justifying their existence.
 

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I’d prefer that cable and premium movie channel shows should have a minimum of 13 episodes while I’d like to see network shows have a minimum of 24 episodes per season. My grandmother has been slowly watching the entire series of Dallas on DVD as we got her the whole series set this past March for her birthday and I have seen the odd episode while over visiting and I was amazed that some seasons had 30 episodes/per season and the episodes are between 49-53 minutes per episode that’s awesome. I don’t watch many network shows anymore but I’d definitely go for more episodes per season with a shorter break during off seasons. I also remember back when fall seasons used to start between first - third week of September now we are lucky enough for some shows to start before Halloween. Another example is the walking dead, I strictly purchase the show on Blu-Ray now and don’t watch it on AMC. I like the fact that they do 16 episode seasons which is good for a cable show but the 2 to 3 month break from episodes 8,9 is too much maybe 3 weeks in December but not 2+ months.


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It's little strange that you'd set a minimum output level for a creative endeavour. Sure, there are soap operas, but most high-quality shows require a little more creative effort and time. It's kind of like you're saying you prefer books having a minimum of 600 pages.
 

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The 22+ episodes a season was mostly an American thing. The U.K. and other places had 13 episodes max.
UK is very variable, and many Prime Time series have been greater than 13 episodes. Look at Casuallty - it was 15 episodes most years originally, but 24 to 28 episodes starting in Season 7, and now 44 to 48 episodes a year.

Lots of other examples too. And this isn't new either ... Z-Cars (a cop show) did 12 seasons over 17 years, and over 800 episodes in the 1960s and 1970s.

The perception that UK series are always shorter, is because the quality stuff that tends to air more often here is shorter - ignoring the Prime Time soaps that can do 100 episodes a year ... which far exceeds the US where Prime Time soaps like Dallas and Dynasty were seldom greater than 30 a year.

There's so much good stuff available now that I don't care how many episodes there are in a season. I'd rather watch 10, tightly written episodes than 22, stuffed with filler and flab.
Indeed! And there's so many shows I've not seen, that already have a few seasons available.
 

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^^^^
Last week, I watched an episode of "Highway Patrol" on Youtube. This is a cop show from back in the '50s. That show ran 26 minutes in a 30 minute slot and they did 39 of them per season. This was typical for shows back then.
 

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I remember waiting for a year just for Game of thrones.
A year is typical for this type of programming. The final season of GoT was delayed by almost two years (21 months.) What made it even worse was that the final 6 episodes were originally supposed to be part of the season 7 and they decided to delay them and call them season 8.
 

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@JamesK: Thanks for confirming something that has gotten me flamed in several forums, namely 39 week seasons. I've been told forcefully more than once in TV forums by so called "experts" that a series' season was never that long in North America.

The fact is a season in 50's and early 60's for many series was 52 weeks long. 39 new episodes, mostly once a week followed by 13 weeks of summer reruns of selected episodes. In other words a series was on every week. Until it was cancelled, it just moved seamlessly from one season to the next.

And .. thanks for mentioning Highway Patrol. Along with Sea Hunt they were probably the first non-children's, non-animated shows that I watched as a six/seven year old. Many fond memories.
 

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22 or more episodes a year was very common for prime time series for several decades. That was 11 in the Fall and 11 in Winter with reruns in the Summer and scattered around holidays the rest of the year. Now, it's often 10 to 12 episodes a year. The "big 3" networks had a solid 3 hours of dramas, comedies, news magazines and variety shows 7 days a week, not the 1 or 2 hours, 5 or 6 days a week with reality show and product placement fillers we get now. They only aired about 8, 10 or 12 minutes of commercials an hour as well, which made shows in hour long time slots about 50 minutes long instead of the 40 minutes we get now.
 
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