[Kofus]

I call Telus requested the WCDMA/HSPA frequency they are using but told are 800 mhz and 1900 Mhz. However, I search online found that the Telus/Bell WCDMA/HSPA frequencies are 850/1900 MHZ. I wonder which one is correct?

Another thing, if I buy a smart phone with WCDMA/HSPA 850/1900/2100 Mhz frequency, will it works on Telus even if the Telus customer service told me it's 800/1900 mhz. What about a WCDMA 3G phone with 900/1900/2100 mhz, will still be compatible?

I am a little confuse here on the 50mhz differences compatibility here.

...will highly appreciate if someone could help...

 

[majortom]

What about a WCDMA 3G phone with 900/1900/2100 mhz, will still be compatible?

You definitely don't want that one. 900 Mhz, and 2100 Mhz are used in Europe, not North America. For North America, you want a minimum of 850/1900 Mhz. This will give you the best mobility between networks in
North America. Don't even worry about the others unless you plan on going to Europe anytime soon.
When the Telus rep told you 800/1900 Mhz, that's the same thing as 850/1900 Mhz, so do as the cust svc rep
told you.

 

[Kofus]

so this mean 850 mhz and 800 mhz is competible?
As long as the phone has a CDMA/HSPA 850/1900 mhz, I shoud be able to activate and use it without problem? Thanks for your quick respond.

 

[BGY11]

It is definitely 850/1900MHz. If your phone only supports one of those two frequencies then it may work, but reception could be affected. In general, 850MHz signals are able to travel through walls/inside buildings easier than 1900MHz signals can, although sometimes only one frequency is available as well.

 

[majortom]

I'm just stating that in general in North America you want an 850/1900 Mhz phone,
regardless of the operator (800 Mhz = 850 Mhz). It's OK to have more, but ya need at least them two bands
for mobility.

For the exact phone types compatible with a particular operator, you have to use something compatible with Their network.

I'm not sure if they are offering Voice service only on a legacy CDMA/850 network, and Data Only on WCDMA/1900.
Or, for all I know they use GSM for voice, dunno.

You have to ask them what phones are compatible on their network for the Voice and Data services that you want.
So find something you like, then call em up and ask if it'll work before actually buying it. Or ya could just buy
one from their store directly, cause they would never sell you something that wasn't compatible on their own network.

 

[TorontoColin]

Bell/Telus operate two networks. Each has a legacy CDMA network which is capable of voice and data with CDMA phones purchased from Bell or Telus (or one of their flanker brands).

Additionally they operate a shared 3G HSPA+ network operating on the 850/1900 frequencies. This network supports both voice and data and operates independently of the legacy CMDA networks. They have no fallback to GSM like Rogers so devices on this network must support the right 3G bands. As stated by BGY11, supporting only one of 850 or 1900 may work but with decreased reliability and it's not recommended.

I'm just stating that in general in North America you want an 850/1900 Mhz phone,
regardless of the operator

Not true.

AT&T (US), Rogers, Bell, Telus, MTS, and SaskTel all use 850/1900 for 3G
T-Mobile (US), Wind, Mobilicity, and soon Videotron and Shaw use 1700 for 3G

 

[17671]

telus owns 850u/850d and 1900u/1900d

if you have a phone that says other frequencies, they will not operate here in canada, such as 1900u/2100d tholse frequencies are paired together, you cant have one without the other. and those phones do not see our SEEG.

 

[Kofus]

Thank You all. Finally, I've tested couple pieces.
Air Phone 4 ( you could find online ) is not compatible to Telus network even thought it says GSM quad-bands.
However, I found an iPhone knock-off with Android OS online with 3G WCDMA/HSPA 850/1900/2100 MHz. It works.
Total cost: 99.00 ( 1st set ) + 220.00 ( 2nd set ) = 319.00 ( total )
Shipping and handling were 45.00 = 364.00 ( subtotal )

I doing this because Telus gave me a crappy LG phone constant freeze and refuse to cut me a deal on new phone or upgrade the device firmware by fingers pointing to LG back and fore. With less than 2 yr contract remain, I've no choice to buy something workable including the basic apps such as MP3 and video player. I hope the device last till the contract end then I might shift to some carrier for a flexible pricing, fee and support.

 

[JamesK]

I call Telus requested the WCDMA/HSPA frequency they are using but told are 800 mhz and 1900 Mhz.

I just checked the specs for my Nexus One. The UMTS bands (3G) that it supports are 850, 1900 and 2100 MHz. 2100 is used elsewhere and 850 & 1900 are used by Rogers, Bell and Telus. The same model phone can be used on any of those three carriers. They also have a similar model which uses 900, AWS and 2100. (900 is used elsewhere). The 1700 MHz AWS band is used by Wind and so that phone is not usable on Bell, Telus or Rogers. 800 & 850 refer to the same band, so you're fine on Telus with it.

You'll find Android works well. Which version comes with that phone?

 

[Kofus]

It's an Android 2.1 iPhone knock-off with 850/1900/2100 bandwidth.
Though it's not an iphone with real smooth sensitive multi-touch,
still he phone is working fine and I am enjoying it because:
there are apps support online, play java apps, and no annoying freeze problem as LG gave me. Media files and MP3 players are all marvelous.

 

[JamesK]

^^^^
You'll want 2.2, if you can get it. It has a few advantages over earlier versions, including both WiFi and USB tethering. A couple of weeks ago, while meeting some friends for breakfast, I had 5 computers connected to the internet through my Nexus One, via WiFi.

 

[17671]

james k, 1900/2100 is one band, 2100 downlink/1900 uplink, so to not confuse it with the 1900/1900 band, most people refer to it as IMT, and they refer 1700/2100 as AWS, this avoids confusion when bands are overlapped like 1900,

 

[robsaw]

james k, 1900/2100 is one band, 2100 downlink/1900 uplink, so to not confuse it with the 1900/1900 band, most people refer to it as IMT, and they refer 1700/2100 as AWS, this avoids confusion when bands are overlapped like 1900,

If you are talking about the 850/1900/2100 spec for Google Nexus One 3G, the 1900/2100 reference is NOT, repeat NOT a reference to one band, it is a reference to two bands. The official nomenclature and frequencies for these bands are:

Operaring Band: UMTS V
Frequency Band Name: 850
Common Name:CLR
Uplink Freq:824-849
Downlink Freq:869-894

Operaring Band: UMTS II
Frequency Band Name: 1900
Common NameCS
Uplink Freq:1850-1910
Downlink Freq:1930-1990

Operaring Band: UMTS I
Frequency Band Name: 2100
Common Name:IMT
Uplink Freq:1920-1980
Downlink Freq:2110-2170

AWS should NOT be referred to as 1700/2100, only as 1700. And, all bands are split for uplink/downlink and several overlap around the globe. AWS is not unique in this regard.


Operaring Band: UMTS IV
Frequency Band Name: 1700
Common Name:AWS
Uplink Freq:1710-1755
Downlink Freq:2110-2155


Any other usage is improper.

 

[JamesK]

james k, 1900/2100 is one band, 2100 downlink/1900 uplink

You may want to check this list of UTMS frequencies. You'll see 1900/2100 (band I) is not used in North America. However, Wind and others use 1700/2100 (band IV).

 

[westbankkid]

Does anyone know if Telus will work with this phone?
Samsung Google Nexus S Android 3G It apparently is GSM as well as 3G.

Thank You

 

[TorontoColin]

No, it won't. The current Nexus S has 3G over AWS and 2G over other bands. Bell/Telus only support 3G and have no GSM backup, and they use a different 3G frequency (850/1900).

 

[wcdma]

looking for some android telus help

hi just looking for some advice here. i know im digging up old cellular bones here but can sumone tell me if both of these phones will work in canada with telus. phone number 1 is http://www.vkamobi.com/products/A3.html[/URL] and phone number 2 is [URL="http://www.vkamobi.com/giphone-f22-3.5-inch-multi-touch-capacitance-screen-android-gps-3g.html

From reading all the previous post on this subject i think phone number 2 will def work with telus, its has the required 3G: WCDMA/HSPA: 850/1900/2100MHz, in fact i think it might be the same phone kolpf ended up getting, but im not so sure about phone number 1, it has 3G network. WCDMA(3G),GSM,EDGE,HSDPA,Quadband:GSM850/900/1800/1900MHZ WCDMA:2100MHZ

thanks for anyones input, i know its like beating a dead horse but i think i understand it now just looking for a second opinion
alex

 

[TorontoColin]

The second one should definitely work. The first one only lists 2100 at the top but under basic technical parameters it lists WCDMA 850/1900/2100, so it might work as well.

 

[tomtom]

Guys, I have an old samsung sgh-a411 phone unlocked on the telstra network in Australia. Will this phone be sufficiently compatible with Telus's network to be useful ?

It has tri-band GSM (gsm 900/gsm 1800/ gsm 1900) and
3G wcdma 850 hsdpa.

What worries me is it only has the 850 component of 3G. ie Not the 3g 1900.

Will this 850 only be sufficient, or should I just buy a cheap prepaid when I arrive in Canada. If it helps, I'm going to Vancouver and Vancouver Island

Thanks guys.

 

[TorontoColin]

It will work most places, but it may have reduced connectivity. I'd recommend picking up a cheap Telus HSPA+ phone.