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Gah! They're coming tomorrow morning to hook up my cable, and migrating me from 6 Mbps DSL to 24 Mbps cable. Had I known about this though, I would have gone with the 16 Mbps DSL which is nominally cheaper and more importantly without the problems cable has been experiencing.

Given that they have already shipped me the modem and they're coming in less than 24 hours to do the hook up it's too late to change my mind. As long as the cable performs as it should then I doubt it'll be a problem, but if I have the issues some other users are having I'll be really annoyed about this.
 

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just call them

i bet they will wave the account type fee if you are nice on the phone. but not sure they will credit you the modem.

for me an express user it will cost me 3 dollars more a month. (from 36.95 to 39.95)

still less then what i would pay rogers for the same amount of data i download.

they also have implemented an "off peak" download hours of 2am to 8am on 300gb accounts. this off peak window allows unlmited downloads that dont count twords your limit.
 

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Yeah, but the activation fee is $25 and the modem is $100, not to mention that hookup appointments require more than 24 hours cancellation notice. I just don't think it's worth it at this point, as long as everything works as it should I think I'll still be happy with cable.
 

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Why is it that the DSL 16 and 25 options are not comparable (as indicated in your chart)? Isn't it the same service with same speeds, now you just have an option of unlimited or capped so compare the price for the 300GB cap limit only?
 

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I've checked my bandwidth usage for the last four months, and I haven't "consumed" as many "bits" as I thought, on average well below 200 GB per month. So I'm just going to keep my existing 6 Mbps DSL service, but downgrade it from Unlimited to 300 GB, saving me $5 per month.

I won't bother getting the higher speeds. Already, YouTube has a lot of trouble just streaming 720p HD video properly. It can't even max out my home connection!
 

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milkster, as noted, old prices had a $99 "start-up", the new announced prices do not so how do you amortize that cost to make a valid comparison? As I said though, the Premium DSL packages with 300GB of data are cheaper than before, just unsure how you would calculate the exact percentage.
 

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The Teksavvy justification

Dear TekSavvy Customer,

First and most importantly, all of us at TekSavvy wish you and your families a very healthy and happy new year. Last year was very challenging for our industry and we expect 2012 to be the same. Rest assured, though, that we will continue to provide our subscribers with the best value in Internet service on the best terms.

As you know, for quite some time now we have been working to ensure fair pricing for residential Internet service. And while we won the battle against the imposition of usage-based billing (UBB) last February, we have not yet won the war.

In addition, we had been seeking to obtain wholesale access to high-speed DSL service so that we could offer 12, 16 and 25Mbps packages to our subscribers. In this regard we have been successful. The CRTC mandated that access last June, and we began offering high-speed DSL service with pricing based on an interim model.

On November 15, the CRTC introduced a new wholesale Internet pricing model intended to address the pricing of high-speed DSL service as well as the UBB issue.

The decision in part reflects success in our struggle against UBB. The new model bases pricing on two elements: a fixed cost per subscriber as before, and a variable portion based on capacity utilization rather than usage. That is a reasonable model in principle; the fixed element is acceptable, but the variable portion remains deeply flawed.

Fixed Portion
In fact, the fixed portion has been reduced, which has permitted us, for now, to reduce the cost of our 12 and 16Mbps packages, as the fixed portion is substantially lower than the interim rate set last June.

Variable Portion
However, the variable portion, based as it is on the incumbents’ purported cost of peak capacity, has the potential to become unjustifiably very substantial.

This is because the variable portion is based on tariffs that use costs submitted by incumbents such as Bell and Rogers. In the view of virtually all independent ISPs and consumer groups, some of the tariffs, in particular those applicable to Bell’s DSL service and Cogeco's cable service, are unusually high.

Unfortunately, the tariff-setting process is less than transparent. The incumbents make submissions, which are not subject to the review of those who can best assess them: other ISPs.

If left to stand, these prices will ensure that residential Internet service prices will increase dramatically as consumer usage at peak times increases. We are pursuing strategies to reverse or materially mitigate this element of the decision, and more on that later. But, for now, we have to accommodate the pricing model that will come into effect February 2.

TekSavvy has always viewed fair pricing to be at the core of our value proposition, and we remain committed to providing the best mix of competitive pricing, virtually unfettered usage, best-in-class service and flexible terms available in the industry. However, to continue to be able to do so in the face of the recent decision, we have to modestly adjust our rates.

As of February 2, we will be introducing new high-speed cable and DSL packages that will offer our customers all the speed options they need. At that time, in order to attempt to address the impact of the new pricing model, we will also be changing the pricing of all our high and unlimited usage packages.

● 300GB Packages. The cost of most of our 300GB packages will increase. However, for DSL customers, the 300GB meter will not run between the hours of 2 am and 8 am, effectively allowing unlimited services for all downloading in that off-peak period. We are pleased to be the first in the industry to offer unlimited off-peak bandwidth.*

● Unlimited Packages. We will continue to offer unlimited packages for our more avid Internet users, with increased pricing that will reflect the greater demands that significant usage makes on our capacity requirements. We understand and share the desire to enjoy all that the Internet offers, but this unjustified pricing model compels us to adjust our prices accordingly.*


These are the best rates we currently are able to offer, together with our off-peak usage innovation, to minimize the impact of the new pricing model. Over the next six months or so we will find out whether these rates are appropriate, as the usage patterns of our subscribers come into focus with the introduction of new rates and speeds.

Rest assured that we are still working to change this. This cause is an extremely important one. Even before this decision, Canada was an international laggard when it came to the cost of Internet service, with per Mbps costs well above most of the rest of the industrialized world. These regulated wholesale rates that are in place from our suppliers only make matters worse. In our view, while these tariffs remain in effect, Canadians will continue to be punished for the “sin” of enjoying the benefits the Internet has to offer. Unique in the industrialized world, Canadians will be forced to carefully select what, when and how we engage the world through the Internet.

This new wholesale pricing is a big win for the incumbents, especially Cogeco and Bell, whose tariffs are noticeably out of line with most of their competitors. Unfortunately it is a big hit to everyone else – independent ISPs and customers alike.

At TekSavvy we do not believe this situation can remain unchallenged and unremedied.

What we are doing
TekSavvy is committed to maintaining its unique value proposition: low prices, no contracts, great service and industry-leading usage packages.

At this point we are increasing our prices as little as possible and providing innovative alternatives to help you mitigate those increases. At the same time, we are actively pursuing remedies at all levels to head off the additional dramatic cost increases that this model will impose on Internet users over time.

What you can do
We will make every effort to keep you informed, either through our blog or through the mainstream media, of new developments. In the meantime we encourage you to stay informed, alert your friends and family to this important issue that will have a long term impact on Canadians, and keep the issue alive. Let’s join together to keep Canada from remaining one of the most expensive, uncompetitive Internet markets in the world.

We regret the price hikes, but they reflect our mission to be fair to our customers, and at the same time allow us to remain a robust force in the industry, offering competitively priced, high-quality service, with all the usage you desire.
Thank you for your continued support.

Sincerely,

Marc Gaudrault - CEO/TekSavvy
 

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I noticed TSI have a new bandwidth usage tool

http://teksavvy.com/en/gigusage.asp

but my usage for the last 3 months shows at 0Gb. I wonder if they can reliably measure bandwidth.

The switch from unlimited 5M DSL to 300Gb 16M DSL seems a no brainer at the same price. Any heavy downloading could be done free between 2 and 8am.

Correct me if I am wrong at 16Mbps it would take approximately 10 minutes per Gb of information. Which is 36Gb in the 6 hour free window. In a 30 day month that is over a Terabyte of free bandwidth.
 

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My mistake, only DSL users on 300GB packages get unlimited downloading between 2am and 8am.
 

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Which is why I'm switching to the 300 GB package. I can schedule heavy downloads during that time.

This is the part of the TSI release that I like the best.

Unfortunately, the tariff-setting process is less than transparent. The incumbents make submissions, which are not subject to the review of those who can best assess them: other ISPs.
In other words, the existing CRTC process gives anyone the opportunity to lie to the Commission through confidential submissions, with no mechanism in place to properly validate the claims made in these submissions.

As a result, we now pay more for less Internet access.
 

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Please we have lots of threads bashing the CRTC. Let's keep on topic which is the price changes.
 

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Am I reading it wrong?

It looks like the 12/1 option for DSL will be much cheaper then now.

I'd love to go from 800k to 1M up, it's not a huge difference, but I will notice it.

Anyone know if the modem you use with 6/800k will work with the 12/1M service?

Thanks, TTYL
 

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So far it looks like prices in B.C. are not going to increase.

The minute they do I'll be switching back to Shaw.
 

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I'm on Teksavvy cable, and the e-mail notice I received does not specify that the bandwith meter is turned off only for DSL customers, although I see this is stated on Teksavvy's new pricing page. At this point, my assumption is that this should also apply for cable.

I also see that the Bandwith Usage form still doesn't work for cable accounts.

Considering the alternatives, I'm not too unhappy about the price increases, so long as they don't go up any further. However, the Teksavvy letter seems to imply that these may be temporary/interim prices while they continue to investigate and explore ways to mitigate costs.
 

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My mistake, only DSL users on 300GB packages get unlimited downloading between 2am and 8am.
According to the letter I received, which is slightly different than what you posted (I'm a currently Teksavvy Extreme Cable Pro subscriber), the off peak unlimited applies to BOTH cable and DSL.

Here is the letter I received :

Pricing Notification

Dear TekSavvy Customer,

First and most importantly, all of us at TekSavvy want to wish you and your families a very healthy and happy new year. Last year was very challenging for our industry and we expect 2012 to be more of the same. Rest assured though that we will continue to provide our subscribers with the best value in internet service on the best terms.

As you know, for quite some time now we have been working to ensure fair-pricing in residential internet service. And while we won the battle against the imposition of usage based billing last February, we have not won.

In addition, we have been seeking to obtain wholesale access to high-speed DSL service, so that we can offer 12, 16 and 25 Mbps packages to our subscribers. In this regard we have been successful. The CRTC mandated that access last June, and we began offering high-speed DSL service with pricing based on an interim model.

On November 15 the CRTC introduced a new wholesale internet pricing model, intended to implement the final price of high-speed DSL service as well as address the UBB issue.

The decision in part reflected our success in our struggle against UBB; the new model bases pricing on two elements, a fixed cost per subscriber as before, and a variable portion based on capacity utilization, rather than usage. That is a reasonable model in principle, and the fixed element is acceptable, but the variable portion remains deeply flawed.

Fixed Portion
In fact, the fixed portion has been reduced, which has permitted us, for now, to reduce the cost of our 12 and 16Mbps packages, as the fixed portion is substantially lower than the interim rate set last June.

Variable Portion
However the variable portion, based as it is on the incumbent’s purported cost of peak capacity, has the potential to become unjustifiably very substantial.

This is because the variable portion is based on tariffs which use costs submitted by incumbents, such as Bell and Rogers. In the view of virtually all independent ISPs and consumer groups some of the tariffs, in particular those applicable to Bell’s DSL service and Cogeco's cable service, are unusually high.

Unfortunately, the tariff setting process is less than transparent; the incumbents make submissions, which are not subject to the review of those who probably can best assess them- other ISPs.

If left to stand, these prices will ensure that residential internet service prices will increase dramatically as consumer usage at peak times increases. We are pursuing strategies to reverse or materially mitigate this element of the decision, and more on that later. But for now we have to accommodate the pricing model that will come into effect February 1.

TekSavvy has always viewed fair pricing to be at the core of its value proposition, and we remain committed to providing the best mix of competitive pricing, virtually unfettered usage, best-in-class service and flexible terms available in the industry. However, to continue to be able to do so in the face of the recent decision we have to modestly adjust our rates.

As of February 2 we will be introducing new high-speed packages in cable and DSL which will offer our customers all the speed options they need. At that time, in order to attempt to address the impact of the new pricing model, we will also be changing the pricing of all of our high and unlimited usage packages.

300 GB Packages
The cost of most of our 300GB packages will increase. However, the 300GB meter will not run between the hours of 2am and 8am, effectively offering unlimited services for all downloading in that off-peak period. We are pleased to be the first in the industry to offer unlimited off-peak bandwidth.*

Unlimited Packages
We will continue to offer unlimited packages for our more avid internet users, with increased pricing that will reflect the greater demands that significant usage makes on our capacity requirements. We understand and share the desire to enjoy all that the internet offers, but this unjustified pricing model compels us to adjust our prices accordingly.*

These are the rates we currently feel we are able to offer, together with our off-peak usage innovation, to minimize the impact of the new pricing model. Over the next six months or so we will find out if these rates are appropriate, as the usage patterns of our subscribers come into focus with the introduction of new rates and speeds.

Please rest assured that we are still working to change this. This cause is an extremely important one. Even before this decision, Canada was an international laggard when it comes to the cost of internet service, with per Mbps costs well above most of the rest of the industrialized world. These regulated wholesale rates that are in place from our suppliers only make matters worse. In our view, while these tariffs remain in effect Canadians will continue to be punished for the “sin” of enjoying the benefits and pleasures the internet has to offer. Unique in the industrialized world, Canadians will be forced to carefully select what, when and how they engage the world through the internet.

This new wholesale pricing is a big win for the incumbents, especially Cogeco and Bell, whose tariffs are noticeably out of line with most of their competitors. Unfortunately it is a big hit to everyone else – independent ISPs and customers alike.

At TekSavvy we do not believe this situation can remain unchallenged and unremedied.
What we are doing

TekSavvy is committed to maintaining its unique value proposition - low prices, no contracts, great service, and industry-leading usage packages.

At this point we are increasing our prices as little as possible and providing innovative alternatives to help you mitigate these increases. At the same time we are actively pursuing remedies at all levels to head off additional dramatic cost increases that this model will impose on internet users over time.
What you can do

We will make every effort to keep you informed, either through our blog or through the mainstream media, of new developments. In the meantime we encourage you to stay informed, alert your friends and family to this important issue that will have a long term impact on Canadians, and keep this issue alive. Let’s join together to keep Canada from remaining one of the most expensive, uncompetitive internet markets in the world.

We regret the price hikes, but they reflect our mission to be fair to our customers, and at the same time allow us to remain a robust force in the industry, offering competitively priced, high-quality service, with all the usage you desire.

Thank you for your continued support,



Sincerely,

Marc Gaudrault - CEO/TekSavv
Personally,
I'm fine with the price increase assuming Teksavvy can offer a more consistent experience. Up until now, I have been quite tolerant of significant speed DECREASES during peak times (7pm - 10pm) resulting in max speeds of less than half of what I am paying for.

With this increase in price, I will expect more consistent download speeds on the cable side and will be complaining come February if it continues to be a problem.

On a side note, I have a Speedstream 516 modem lying around that I previously used for their 5Meg DSL service. Can this modem be used for the 16Meg / 25Meg DSL service as well or is a different modem required?
 

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AvengingAngel, I don't think TS can get it right. On your email its Cable and DSL. On their website its DSL only. My advice is for cable customers to call them and confirm if its important to you.
 

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The new pricing structure is <see link in post #1> for both DSL and Cable. It includes some new unlimited plans. I'm guessing, but this is probably the fallout from the recent CRTC wholesale pricing decision, discussed here. It's also only the second price increase in 8 years, both of which were announced after a CRTC decision that allowed an increase in wholesale rates. Can't complain too much about that.
 
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