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TCM HD Blacked Out??? WTH???

Tuned to 1283 today to see what was on and got the message that the channel is blacked out. Something about not having broadcast rights in Canada.
The regular channel 292 is still available.
 

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I could be wrong, but here is my best guess...

Some movie studios purchase the rights to a movie so they can re-master it and release it. The new movie studio owns the rights to the re-mastered movie but the old studio retains the rights to the original.

The re-mastered movie would be the one shown on the HD channel. In the U.S. TCM has got the rights to show the original & re-mastered versions, in Canada for some they only have the rights to the original.

But that is just a my guess.
 

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It is my guess that Treasure HD, Rush HD and Equator HD are the "guilty" channels which have snapped the Canadian HD rights for the blacked out movies on TCM HD.
 

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... if that's the case, they are not guilty at all. The three channels mentioned put out a high-quality product and deserve to have their rights protected if they are airing the same movies. Oasis HD in particular is a standby of mine if nothing else is on.. and I am certainly looking forward to their Parks Canada series which starts this week.
 

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TCM-HD -"Blackout in effect" - what?

So, I was about to watch A SHOT IN THE DARK on TCM-HD, very excited to see this early Sellers gem in high def, when the channel suddenly blacked out. The channel guide for TCM-HD now lists "blackout in effect" in place of A SHOT IN THE DARK. What's the deal with this, and how frequently does it happen??
 

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Likely: Some Canadian network has the exclusive rights to show that film, so TCM is blacked out.

This also used to happen with James Bond movie marathons on Superstation.
 

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I saw one of these on Rogers last weekend and then when I went back a few minutes later the movie was on and I checked and it had a full description. What could they possibly black out from a station thats shows nothing newer than 50 years?
 

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Probably on TCM in SD.
 

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TCM SD used to occasionally not show a film listed on its US schedule in Canada e.g. Rebecca, Klute, They Shoot Horses Don't They...
They wouldn't post a blackout screen, they'd just show another film. Has to be licensing rights, which probably also explains why there is a Canadian TCM schedule that is almost, but not quite, the same as the USA one http://www.tcm.com/schedule/index.jsp?startDate=01/19/2010&timezone=EST&cid=N
 

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I can understand this happening when they don't have cdn rights, but then why list the title in the Bell Channel guide?
 

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On Rogers there's no Movie listed in the guide - only the Blackout Information (indicating no Canadian Rights - TCM-HD) This is one of the few times that the TVGuide Canada info supplied to Rogers has been "superior".
 

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Interesting to know. I wonder why Bell can't update their channel guides for this kind of thing. Surely it must annoy their subscribers to no end if this happens regularly.
 

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Rights for HD programming are almost always negotiated separately, or in combination with, the SD rights for the programme.

This is part of the reason why many "HD" channels show upconverts - saves them the money to pay for the HD version, especially in reruns.
 

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Just to be clear

I wanted to clear up some misunderstanding with this issue of TCM HD being blacked out.

Jan 25, 2010 1:30pm-5:00pm Bell 1283 (TCM-HD) Blacked out due to not having broadcast rights in Canada.

Bell 292 (TCM SD) The Male Animal 1:30-3:15, then Dream Wife 3:15-5:00pm

Meanwhile, on Echostar 132 (TCM US SD) The Long Night 1:30pm-3:15, then The Lady Killers 3:15-5:00pm

So, not only do they not have HD rights, they don't even have Canadian rights to the SD version.

Currently we have blackouts listed in the programming guide for the 1:30-5:00 slot, as well as another on Saturday and a third on Tuesday next week. So there are a fair number of blackouts.

As far as my Bell 9242 is concerned, however, the programming guide is accurately stating which moving is playing (or if there's a blackout.)

My conversation with ExpressVu support has them telling me that what I am seeing has nothing to do with them. In other words, the change in programming or blackout is coming directly from TCM and if I wish to complain about it I should contact TCM...so that's my next step.
 

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A few more interesting tid-bits.

I went to TCM.com and choose the "Canadian Schedule" menu option at the top of the web page. It lists "The Long Night" and "The Ladykillers", not the movies that are actually playing on Bell 292 (TCM SD). In fact, that isn't the Canadian shedule...

http://www.tcm.com/schedule/index.jsp?cid=CAN is the link to the proper Canadian shedule.

TCM acknowledge on their site that they are working to obtain the Canadian rights for all movies they play.

Finally, TCM do not broadcast in HD in the US which may explain why we get nothing on Bell 1283 (TCM HD) as a substitute for the movies they don't have Canadian rights to.
 

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Finally, TCM do not broadcast in HD in the US which may explain why we get nothing on Bell 1283 (TCM HD) as a substitute for the movies they don't have Canadian rights to.
TCM in HD has been available in the US since last summer.
 
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