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I'm not that good in this "New Age" of streaming services, but it appears to me that more and more services are coming on line?
Disney+
Peacock
CBS Access
Netflix
Amazon Prime
ETC

The way I see it(and this is (only a guess)is that streaming services like Peacock, CBS Access service like that ,which own there own shows(network)or movies will start having exclusive rights to their own shows, hence to watch all the shows or movies you want you'll have to sub to several streaming services to get what you want?

Now grant you services like Crave TV Netflix that presently have rights to shows/movies owned by other streaming services will most likely have those shows untill their contract with such said ordinal right holders expires, after that they'll loose those shows & movies.

So your back at where you started, instated of pay $50-$100 for cable/sat/IPTV, you'll be instead pay the same or perhaps a little less to to all these streaming services.

You get S*****D either way. Either by the BDU's or by the Streaming services. You can't win :frown :mad: :crying
 

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For now there is a difference.
You can cancel a stream service and switch to another anytime you want. So technically you can rotate the stream services and catch up with the shows you want.
This obviously will not work with the stream providers for very long and I am sure they will come up with some restraints like having to subscribe for a minimum of X months.
 

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The main advantage to streaming is that the money goes directly to the company that "broadcasts" the programming. That may result in better programming and a reduction or elimination of commercials. I personally would not watch or subscribe to an OTT service that has commercial advertising so that eliminates a few. Don't know how it will all shake out in the long run but the sooner we can get rid of BDUs that charge us $50/mo for a basic package of OTA and service channels they pay practically nothing for, the better off we will be. Markups on individual channels under pick and pay are exorbitant. We can also get rid of their ridiculous contracts and extra fees for nothing of value. Unfortunately, the Canadian broadcasting system is set up to favour big BDUs that lock in popular programming and leverage that into ridiculous markups for junk that customers do not want. It's time to break up the Canadian broadcasting cartel and give consumers a fair shake.
 

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Come on! Nothing will change. Costs will only go up and up..as program quality goes down. You can already see that as Netflix churns out a lot of "poor" programs. Start adding up the streaming services and your bill quickly goes over the current fees for cable/sat subscriptions. Its your money...due as you please.
 

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The thing is, nobody is required to subscribe to every service. Most people, especially among those who don't frequent sites like this one, don't need to have access to everything on TV. They can pick a handful of services and swap them out as necessary, and build a TV package which covers their needs for well under $50/month.

And, as mentioned, that comes with additional perks like being commercial free, multi-screen/multi-platform support, and on demand access. Of course there's also the downsides of multiple accounts/payments to monitor and varying platform support.

This obviously will not work with the stream providers for very long and I am sure they will come up with some restraints like having to subscribe for a minimum of X months.
Some of them (Crave, Amazon Prime, and Disney+ jump to mind) are attempting to combat this by discounting subscriptions if they're made on an annual basis, rather than month to month.
 

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The only reason I still have cable is for sports (TSN & Sportsnet). I dont remember the last time I watched news or some shows on another channel with commercials.
Here is a breakdown of sports and Movies for me without cable:

Netflix : $10.00
Disney + : $9.00 (you can save $1.50 per month with annual subscription)
DAZN : $12.50 (paid 150 for a year)
Sportsnet : $20.00 (if I pay 250.00)

Streaming Options when I need it:
TSN : $20.00
Crave : $20.00
Amazon prime and ….

Keep in mind that lot of people share streaming services, I dono if it’s allowed or not. I still have cable and with Disney plus launching soon, I'm really rethinking it.
 

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Keep in mind that lot of people share streaming services, I dono if it’s allowed or not.
It's not but is difficult to enforce without some onerous restrictions. Netflix is aware of the issue and is working on it. Most services restrict simultaneous streams to one or two with higher numbers for more expensive "family" plans.

Others attempt to restrict the number of different devices and make customers delete devices when a fairly low limit is reached. Crave and some other Canadian VOD services have done this but it's a gigantic PITA. It seems like they count every browser update as a new device. It also accomplishes nothing to combat account sharing.
 

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@liverpool I'm also in your boat re the sports. Robbers has had me by the short and curlies too long. I too am thinking of getting internet elsewhere and then would do:

Sportsnet $20
TSN $20
Stack on Prime (for wife) $13

to go with

Netflix $17
Prime which I got with Amazon "free" shipping $79 annual.

Or I'm considering Teksavvy internet and TV, which has a basic and sports packages at $40 plus another $6 for the Stack equivalent. Tired of paying Rogers $100 for most channels I don't watch.
 

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Like I said before soon with Disney+ and others will have their own exclusive contain, which others will no longer have. You'll end up paying more then you do now with Sat/Cable/IPTV to get the same shows you get now.

Your AOL if do, your SAOL if you don't.
 

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Rogers also has a basic plan with TSN and Sportsnet as add-ons. The problem is that the prices for the individual packages are set so high that there is little savings to be had over purchasing a low end inclusive package. I've looked at Rogers, TSI and Start extensively and there is not a lot of savings to be had for TV when bundle discounts factored in and extra cost features such as PVR are added.
 

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People forget that you don't have to subscribe to all streaming services at once. How many shows can you really watch? Right now I have Netflix, Disney Plus and Amazon. I don't bother with Crave, Britbox or CBS All Access. When they have a show I want to see, I'll wait until all the episodes are available then subscribe for a month or two to watch then unsubscribe again. People pay through the nose for cable and/or streaming services because they want quantity at their finger tips. Learn to live with less and you will spend less money.
 

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It wont be long before the stream services figure out a way to lock people in for longer periods of time.
And it wont be long either until they start adding ADS to their content as well.

Its inescapable, the greed has not gone away from these corporations.
It just got bigger because now they have found a way to not having to share their best content and revenue with anyone else.

So yes, it wont be long we will have a cable type structure for streams with the difference of course that it will end up costing more.
 

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When it comes to services like Netflix, Amazon Prime, HBO and Disney+, I doubt those will have ever have ads. All of those services are targeting the same kind of folks that use to subscribe to traditional linear services like HBO, Showtime and Starz which have never had commercials. Hulu, Peacock and CBS All Access on the other hand are mostly TV shows that are targeting the same audience as traditional linear networks like CBS, ABC and NBC. I believe Hulu's base level of service has ads and the premium tier does not.
 

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Never say never. AMC was once commercial free with uncut movies but has evolved into one of the worst offenders when it comes to excessive commercials and movie editing.

As Hulu has shown, there are markets for both ad supported and commercial free paid services for the same programming. The broadcasters and services I dislike are those that double dip (as do most cable channels) that charge a fee plus air commercials and those that don't offer a choice between the two. Some music services have discovered that they can attract more customers by providing both a free, ad supported service and a premium paid service without ads. It's time that TV broadcasters and video streaming services did the same.
 
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