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So just this past week, we received our hardware from Starlink, and I installed the system yesterday. What a difference! We went from about 4-5 mbs download speed and 1 mbs upload speed with a Bell hub, to 40mbs and 15mbs respectively. The last two days have been completely overcast, so I believe those numbers should be even better on clear days. Thank you Elon Musk! 😊
 

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Up to 3 months so far, and still no complaints. Speed and latency have remained pretty constant. Outages and obstructions have been in the seconds per 24 hour window ranges. I only randomly check since it has been boring to watch.

Elon Musk is 'suggesting' a doubling in speed in 2021. Can't wait.
 

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I've been following the Starlink beta roll-out on Facebook, but then I remembered digitalhome.ca. I haven't read this whole thread, but I'm wondering if anyone has information or links about progress in okaying and/or building ground stations in Canada. I presume that this will involve the CRTC? This would seem to be very important when thinking about the long-term viability of this technology.

My own situation is that I would love to use Starlink at my cottage, but await the app test on my roof when I can get up there this spring. Our whole property is covered by trees, so it will depend on visibility.

I'm also looking forward to seeing how the Dishies survive the winter if they are turned off for the season, since ours is a seasonal cottage. For that reason I'll also be interested to hear, presumably after the Beta, about seasonal plans.

We're in rural Ottawa, West Carleton, northwest of the city.
 

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I've been following the Starlink beta roll-out on Facebook, but then I remembered digitalhome.ca. I haven't read this whole thread, but I'm wondering if anyone has information or links about progress in okaying and/or building ground stations in Canada. I presume that this will involve the CRTC? This would seem to be very important when thinking about the long-term viability of this technology.

My own situation is that I would love to use Starlink at my cottage, but await the app test on my roof when I can get up there this spring. Our whole property is covered by trees, so it will depend on visibility.

I'm also looking forward to seeing how the Dishies survive the winter if they are turned off for the season, since ours is a seasonal cottage. For that reason I'll also be interested to hear, presumably after the Beta, about seasonal plans.

We're in rural Ottawa, West Carleton, northwest of the city.
Ground stations in Canada aren't necessary, and may be more hassle then they would be worth.

If I recall correctly, the Starlink site asks you for the Lat/Long of the location, before they will let you sign up. Some locations might be outside the current coverage area, or that cell might be at capacity.

If you can get it, its a good option!
 

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I haven't read this whole thread, but I'm wondering if anyone has information or links about progress in okaying and/or building ground stations in Canada. I presume that this will involve the CRTC?
Home - Innovation, Science and Economic Development Canada is responsible for licensing spectrum. SpaceX has built one site at St John's, Newfoundland, which is licenced as a Developmental Gateway. Here's a map of all the Gateways showing existing coverage.

I'm also looking forward to seeing how the Dishies survive the winter if they are turned off for the season, since ours is a seasonal cottage. For that reason I'll also be interested to hear, presumably after the Beta, about seasonal plans.
Surviving the winter shouldn't be an issue. Starlink plans are monthly, so you should be able stop and start when you please. The only issue during the early buildout is they may not have available capacity at your location when you want to reconnect in the spring.
 

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Interesting. I wonder if Starlink will set up ISPs outside North America that are available for North American users. That is to provide IP addresses and DNS service.
I could live with just an IPV6 address if there was a convenient 6-4 tunneled available.

I know 57 will consider this too political but C10 worries me a bit. I am not interested in breaking Geofencing to watch copyrighted material but just watch thinks like YouTube and news sites unfiltered by the CRTC.


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I could live with just an IPV6 address if there was a convenient 6-4 tunneled available.
With the Rogers cell network, 464XLAT is used for IPv4 traffic. No reason Starlink couldn't do similar.
 

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I wonder if Starlink will set up ISPs outside North America that are available for North American users. That is to provide IP addresses and DNS service.
As a licensed Canadian ISP, Starlink is required to follow the laws of Canada for all physical connections terminating in Canada, just like Rogers.
 

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We will see what happens with C10. Starlink only needs to emulate a long piece of cable and the ISP could be in another continent.
Two previous members of the CRTC were in today’s paper saying that C10 should be rethought.


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The "Better than Nothing Beta" has continued to better than that for me. I've continued to migrate my devices without any issue. I consider killing my terrestrial link to save money, but haven't make that decision yet.

Starlink has sent out an newsletter with the following content indicating upgrades (without timelines):

Space Lasers
As Elon recently mentioned, the Starlink team is preparing to launch upgraded satellites that will include space lasers. Space lasers enable our satellites to transfer data between each other without having to go through a ground station. Once fully deployed, space lasers will
make Starlink one of the fastest options available to transfer data around the world.

Connecting to the Best Satellite
The team completed roll out of a new feature to all users that enables your Starlink to seamlessly switch to a different satellite in real time if communication with your assigned satellite is interrupted for any reason. There can only be one satellite connected to your Starlink at any time, but this feature will enable choice of the best satellite, resulting in far fewer network disruptions.

High Temperature Management
The Starlink team has initiated a series of software improvements that change how your Starlink responds to high temperatures. These improvements will roll out over the next few weeks and should address invalid “Thermal Shutdown” app alerts seen by some customers.

Starlink App Upgrades
The Starlink team recently rolled out several improvements that enable users to
do all of the following from the app:
  • make network name/password changes
  • enable WPA3 security
  • separate control of 2.4Ghz and 5Ghz

The future does look positive, and Better than Nothing!
 

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What am I missing?
The rest of the world. :)

Government of Canada announces $1.44-billion investment in Telesat supporting the future of connectivity for rural and remote communities
Telesat Lightspeed will enable broadband Internet and LTE and 5G connectivity in Canada starting in 2024, ultimately connecting approximately 40,000 households in rural and remote regions. It will also allow for significantly better service offerings in many regions of the country where current speeds struggle to meet the demands of an increasingly digital world, and it will improve the company's service for business clients in industries like air transport and shipping.
I believe the $5 billion is for the world-wide satellite constellation.
 

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What am I missing?
The part where the Canadian government makes subscribing to Starlink and other foreign owned satellite internet systems illegal. That would allow Telesat and Canadian internet providers to fix prices and bilk Canadian customers out of billions of dollars in profits at taxpayers expense. Services on the Telesat system would be subject to federal taxation, of course.
 

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The part where the Canadian government makes subscribing to Starlink and other foreign owned satellite internet systems illegal. That would allow Telesat and Canadian internet providers to fix prices and bilk Canadian customers out of billions of dollars in profits at taxpayers expense. Services on the Telesat system would be subject to federal taxation, of course.
You sir are indeed a genius on this one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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I can't see how this is even remotely viable though, considering the lead Starlink has and the advantage SpaceX has in effectively being able to use extra launch capacity on the cheapest rocket in the world to launch them. Telesat will have higher costs pretty much out of the gate and be years behind in offering service.

Which is about on par for Canada in this, really. For that kind of money they could probaby have made a deal with SpaceX to supply far more connections.
 

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There are several other countries and companies planning or launching low orbit satellites. I don't know all the technical details of the Telesat proposal but partnering with Australia or Europe might provide some sort of synergy. I agree that making a deal with SpaceX would be the best choice in the short term. Long term, a Canadian solution might be in Canadian interests but it's also much more costly and risky.
 
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