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So your kids will not be permitted to watch the show because of some swearing. You have watched it to know about the swearing or is this hearsay?
I am not questioning your decision, your kids, your choice, just interested that's all.


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There were two instances of f**k in the last episode. Not really necessary as they didn't add anything and were somewhat jarring. Variations of "hell" would have worked just as well.
 

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Not a fan of the F bomb. I think is generally overused. However this may sound contradictory they way it was used in ST: D, it didn't offend or shock. It was dropped and the initial user showed a natural sheepishness about using it and they went on. The dialog in the context of the scene seemed natural. Using hell, frak or something I think would else would have seemed unnatural. If they start using it on a regular basis then yeah I will have an issue.

I am sure there was a bit of hey we are not on broadcast TV so we can push the limits, hopefully it is not used as a crutch but as a one off I am not overly concerned.
 

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Jay Leno got it right when he explained why he doesn't swear in his routines. It's because "idiot" is funnier. It is and he uses it a lot. There are almost always better words to use than fork.
 

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pretty disappointed with ST Discovery. It does not seem like Star Trek. They changed the Klingons into Orcs in space that speak a Native American language. Close your eyes and you think you are watching "Dances with Wolves".

Did not notice them dropping the F-bomb but i kind of zoned out of the last episode pretty much. Not sure if the F-bomb belongs in the ST universe. But in general i do hate censorship or editing for content. Put up a viewer warning at the start and do not complain if it is adult content. You were warned.

I find it disturbing that someone finds it ok to let the little kids watch a movie (on TV edited for content) like Saving Private Ryan. Over dub all the swear words but leave all the gore and bloody detail intact. The beach landing. give us a F-ing chance dubbed to Fighting Chance. Blood, guts, dismemberment and death is ok so long as they dont say the F-word.
 

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Maybe we should shorten the name to STD. That would explain a lot. I really enjoyed the first two episodes. It's gone downhill since. Then I found out the the series creator wrote the first two episodes and then left or was replaced. That's when ST: Discovery became STD.
 

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NY Times from today: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/arts/television/star-trek-discovery-review-cbs-all-access.html?smid=tw-nytimes&smtyp=cur

The most direct antecedent for “Discovery” might not be any “Trek” series but the 2004–09 reboot of “Battlestar Galactica.” That series was also a bleaker riff on a previous series, turning the struggle of humanity against the Cylons — a society of robots that mankind created — into one of the best fictional treatments of the war on terror. Ingeniously, it rethought the Cylons as monotheistic zealots, murderous but with a culture and ideals that could not be easily dismissed.
A fair comparison but I disagree with the assessment of Battlestar Galactica. That show let the critical hype go to its head, rendering large parts of the final two seasons a wearying slog.
 

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I preferred BSG to what I'm seeing on STD thus far.

On STD the acting is reasonably good, and the special effects are great. The problem is that the writing is horrible.

Oh well.
 

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Star Trek Discovery Renewed for Second Season

Star Trek: Discovery has been renewed for a second season, it was announced today by CBS All Access.

Star Trek: Discovery streams Sunday nights on CBS All Access in the U.S. and Space Channel in Canada.

Comment: No specific announcement about season 2 on Space, but I'm sure it will happen since Bell Media has been bragging about the ratings (see post 74.)
 

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The F-bomb was completely unnecessary. IMO, of course. A show about gangs or cops or whatever, set in the *real* universe, I can see how it would be appropriate. But the Star Trek universe is a somewhat idealized utopia where no-one is fat or bald or sick if they don't want to be, no one is poor, no one is underprivileged in any way (i.e. completely unrealistic). And until now no-one used vulgar words (at least not in English). There was zero need for these two, and they did not add anything to the story.
 

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I find the new Star Trek series intriguing but will resrve judgement until the end of this season. The F-word added nothing to my enjoyment. Seemed out of place.

I echo the comments about the Klingons and their jarring appearance. This series is supposed to PRE-DATE Shatner's Star Trek missions no? Was expecting some commonality in terms of appearance and customs we have seen with past Star Trek series since this predates all others theoretically.
 

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I personally enjoy this series more than most of the other series. I don't like the Klingons as much as the other commenters above have said, but I do like the ongoing rather than wrapping up with a happy ending each week. I have a few quibbles with some of the plot lines, but very much enjoy this series so far.
 

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I wonder how much time and money had to be spent on this.
Some people need a life, if they feel they have to complain about something like that.
 

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I found the first 2 episodes so bad -- wooden writing and comatose acting -- that not even authentic words like f*** could save it. I wanted to like a Star Trek reboot, made in Canada, but the show should remain undiscovered for those who enjoyed the Star Treks of the past. Maybe the show is as unnecessary as the f-bomb.
 

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I loved it and can't wait for the new season. It's quite complex with lots of hidden meaning and references to previous years of Star Trek. Some people don't seem to understand it, but I'm sure they'll come around.

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