[MCIBUS]

I'd thought I'd make a separate thread from the CHCH Schedule one.

Here's the thing I've got Dish(not sure how many have Dish or Direct here on forum or in Canada)

The thing yes there are some shows picked up by Canadian Nets, but there tons of shows not picked up and thats the thing.

Yeah some are good and I guessing alot of Canadians would be interested in seeing, while some others are not as good.

I'm not exactly sure how many Canadian Speciality Channels Canada has but out of all them they can't tell me there's no room.

I don't buy the argument that show does fit the channels "theme" which we all know is BS just look at shows on History as an example there a few more.

I'm guessing the bottom line is $$$ the Canadian Nets don't want to spend money on there Speciality Channels.

But here's the thing by possible buy these "unseen Shows" and customers find them interesting would that not increase

1)subscription to that channel which in turn makes money for the 'owner?

2)AD revenue can be charged at certain rate because of viewership? Again making money for the owner.

It baffles me why the Canadian Nets don't go out and buy programs from the 'Non Traditional US Nets.

 

[thenewdc]

Simple. Simsub Revenue.

 

[Costa]

Well, doesn't it make more sense to battle other broadcasters with the same shows and a different set of commercials?

We're not important, our money is. And they're cry, if they can't make it themselves.

Sorry; I'm just annoyed, we really should have better TV.

 

[Dalek Prime]

I watch all the British shows available here when I want good tv. Seriously, maybe it's just my taste, but I find their shows generally better overall, on average. I'd pay good money for ITV and whatever else they've got, if it was carried by providers. (And not just regional BBC channels. I want what they watch, when they watch it. )

 

[Walter Dnes]

One problem is that Canada, with 1/10th the US population, can't support the same number of commercial TV networks. For English language commercial national TV networks, we basically have CTV and Global and CITY and that's about it.

CBC has been demonized for picking up Wheel of Fortune, E! is defunct, and /A\ is on its last legs. Meanwhile in the US there are at least ABC/CBS/NBC/Fox/MyTV/TheCW and probably a few others that I can't name off the top of my head. It's simple math; 3 Canadian networks can't simultaneously air all the primetime shows being carried by 6 US nets.

 

[Dalek Prime]

You're quite right Walter. Unfortunately our population as it is just doesn't have the economic pull to support all the programming we would wish. *Sigh*

But we can still wish, eh?

 

[MrWisker]

I personally do not really care about picking up shows the USA nets are showing. What I do care about is the crap that is being shown on our specialty channels when compared with the shows that appear on the same channel in the USA. I love visiting family in the USA and watching History or Discovery channels. Why is it so hard for the Canadian version of this channel cannot air even half of the programming?

 

[HDTV101]

You'd be amazed at how many Canadian's have no idea what Hulu.com is and all the US shows you can get using it... but we as canadians can't access Hulu from canada now can we???? OK I have been a bad boy and bought one of those VPN things... off of the clandestinevpn.com underground network ... but I really like Hulu and all the american TV I can watch.

 

[pontcanna]

OK, so that's the dodgiest website I've ever seen. Cash only and they can't spell. There are a million other sites that operate through Paypal, credit card or other payments that are a bit more secure and have been around for a while.

 

[willise]

I have to agree. I'd subscribe to Dish in a heartbeat if I knew how to do it. My understanding is that you need an American citizen to sign up for you as they now require a social security number.

On the other hand, why is the government (CRTC) so afraid of outside television? Why can we listen to any radio broadcast in the world, but not watch History International on Dish?

The "canadianized" versions of some of these shows is embarrassing. Consumers, increasingly with the ease of internet content, want greater choice in their entertainment. Imagine if we were only allowed to import "x" number of movies from the US and had to rely on Canadian films only (spare me the usual banter)?

My torrent client runs constantly with History and Discovery channel programming alone.

 

[classicsat]

It is Cancon obligations which requre them carry only so much foreign progamming.
Yes, they "abuse" that by often running the same Cancon over again on multiple channels.

Cancon and forbidding foreign providers and channels are the heart of the Canadian media protectionist system, ostensibly to make or keep jobs in Canada.

 

[stampeder]

Market Numbers Have To Add Up

First, no sense in complaining about the CRTC when there are no Canadian rules or regulations over how Global, Citytv, CTV, Bravo, Showcase, etc. and even the CBC spend their money when they make their regular shopping trips to the U.S. for programming. Granted, when it comes time to actually broadcast such shows the Canadian regs kick in.

So, here's the real issue:

While we may look at the vast number of U.S. channels and want to cherry-pick the shows we prefer, the Canadian networks have no business interest in what is "highest quality" per se, but rather what is most popular (thus likeliest to make them the most money). This leads them to sometimes offer crappy U.S. shows when the real jewels like Breaking Bad, Southland, and others are left behind as too risky or just not profitable enough, if the rights to show them are even available.

Nowadays it is no problem for Canadians with high speed Internet connections to watch the latest episodes of U.S. shows by visiting the host network's web site or via downloads.

 

[gretzky]

Nowadays it is no problem for Canadians with high speed Internet connections to watch the latest episodes of U.S. shows by visiting the host network's web site or via downloads.

you forgot one thing while it's not illegal to watch on sites like hulu
canadian ip's are blocked so we have to get throught it with a proxy
like the copyrights the internet is splitted into regions so it's like we shouldnt do it and also not everyone knows how to use a proxy
of course the CRTC doesnt regulate internet content but id bet they would do so so one day we may have a canadianised internet like in china and that while it's mostly in place shouldnt be

 

[stampeder]

Nope, I didn't forget that - it wasn't central to my point that there are viable options that have nothing to do with the CRTC, about which some posters seem confused. The issue is $$$.

 

[HankMoody]

It's original programming coming out of US channels like FX, TNT, TBS, VH1, Lifetime, ABC Family, Oxygen and so on that are not making it over the border... all network shows are here, we have all the US networks.

Most of our specialty channels up here need to be scrapped and replaced with the US versions that actally produce their own programming... the Canadian versions of Food, HGTV and a few others are fine, but the rest are mainly garbage!

 

[gonkster]

The network channels want shows that they can substitute the signal for, its not about giving the viewers choices. They would much rather have say 2 million people watching their signal on both the local channel and the US counterpart then put something unique on head to head against a show on the US network and potentially have 1.4 million watching show X on the US network and 0.6 million watching show Y on the local Canadian network.

It would be great to see the specialty channels pick up some of the great content not making it across the border but that would mean they would have to spend money on programming content and as we all know that doesn't seem to be part of their business model. It will be interesting to see how the specialty channels fare when the a la carte option arrives for all consumers and they won't get the free ride in some channel bundle that currently gets them subscribers who never ever watch or want the channel.

 

[nakedgord]

Yeah...I'm sure the stations have a bag full of excuses for crappy programming. Money, cancon, smaller population, whatever. I don't care anymore.

If I could get the Time Warner (or Dish or whatever) for the same price I'd still be subbing to a service.

But for how crappy and over priced our BDU's are it's not worth it with all the other ways to watch TV.

As long as everyone out there continues to pay for the all in packs that's what they want. The key is to either drop service or go with the most basic pack you can and get your content elsewhere.

 

[gretzky]

eah...I'm sure the stations have a bag full of excuses for crappy programming. Money, cancon, smaller population, whatever. I don't care anymore.

If I could get the Time Warner (or Dish or whatever) for the same price I'd still be subbing to a service.

But for how crappy and over priced our BDU's are it's not worth it with all the other ways to watch TV.

As long as everyone out there continues to pay for the all in packs that's what they want. The key is to either drop service or go with the most basic pack you can and get your content

so rue that it's overpriced i was talking with an american friend last week i told him how much i pay for tv per month (120 $) and he couldnt believe his ears how overpriced i was with the package i have
this surely have something to do with '' must carry channels''

 

[HDTV101]

OK, so that's the dodgiest website I've ever seen. Cash only and they can't spell. There are a million other sites that operate through Paypal, credit card or other payments that are a bit more secure and have been around for a while.

Well it is a 'clandestine' operation LOL!

I'm using this VPN right now. The forums mod tells me he can still see my IP but I doubt it's my real Bell IP. I paid by cash so anything I now do online is not traceable back to me... how can it be?

 

[nakedgord]

so rue that it's overpriced i was talking with an american friend last week i told him how much i pay for tv per month (120 $) and he couldnt believe his ears how overpriced i was with the package i have
this surely have something to do with '' must carry channels''

Wow...$120 a month...That's exactly what they want.