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Question that I have because of my non-experience with satellite. So If i understood our french channel are move to G1 right? so why I'm still able to go between all the french channel like 380, 381 382 383 etc and all sport?
By doing the sequence OPTION 1112 I go with a limit time to all french channel.... even better as an example if at 7.00 PM i have something to tape or registered to my 630 At 6.59 by doing the code I can switch to 2 channel and tape both of them.
So for the last week i been taping 2 different channel at the same time (yes manually i need to not forgot to enter the sequence) but can go to my PVR and look at all the one in there,

So why we need to do this stupid sequence from Option 1122 with the F2 satellite but not a permanent set up?
 

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Currently the signals are on both satellites in what they call a dual feed. The dual feed is temporary while they move full time to G1. Sequence is F2 only (Options 1122 not needed) - dual feed G1 and F2 (Options 1122 trick works) - final G1 only (Options 1122 will no longer work).
 

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Currently the signals are on both satellites in what they call a dual feed. The dual feed is temporary while they move full time to G1. Sequence is F2 only (Options 1122 not needed) - dual feed G1 and F2 (Options 1122 trick works) - final G1 only (Options 1122 will no longer work).
Thank you so much it is now clear in my mind about the reason
 

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I am using a VPN from the web called WIndscribe allowing me to connect in ''MTL old port'' and with this you can go to any site in French like TVS RC Sport etc
If you know someone friend of family having a ILLICO VIDEOTRON ACCOUNT LIKE MY SON YOU CAN HAVE everything ON YOUR COMPUTER AND CONNECT TO A TV
Merci !Thank you!
 

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We may think it is a big deal to us and it is but to SD really what percentage of customers are south? Also when I switched to cable I then only went monthly for the south so next to no revenue for them. In fact I will admit that customer service did me a favor last trip and connected me to an account(not mine) for some reason and they got no revenue from me for 2 months. I tried to talk to them but was not getting friendly interaction so just accepted it.
There are thousands of expats in Mexico. Lake Chapala, San Miguel de Allende, and many more, all paying for Shaw. Many are Canadians using legal accounts based in there Canadian homes, and paying directly. I don't know what the "average" user pays, but in my case I am up to $175 a month. If we say most pay at least $75, multiply that out by even 5,000 (which is WAY low), that's $375,000. That's not a drop in the bucket these days. No one is going to ignore us, and trust me, they know about us.
 

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There are thousands of expats in Mexico. Lake Chapala, San Miguel de Allende, and many more, all paying for Shaw. May are Canadians using legal accounts based in there Canadian homes, and paying directly. I don't know what the "average" user pays, but in my case I am up to $175 a month. If we say most pay at least $75, multiply that out by even 5,000 (which is WAY low), that's $375,000. That's not a drop in the bucket these days. No one is going to ignore us, and trust me, they know about us.
Right on. All the more reason why their decision makes no sense. The story about Bell and the Canadian Government pressuring SD to stop Southern reception also does not make sense. If that were the case, the F2 footprint would be spot beamed to Canada only just like Bell did several years ago. GRRRR!!!
 

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F2 beam was designed to be North American wide from its inception, it cannot be turned into a spot beam after the fact.
 

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...their decision makes no sense. The story about Bell and the Canadian Government pressuring SD to stop Southern reception also does not make sense.
If you read the second link in post 1 of this thread it makes perfect sense. Here's the link again.


It's not an SD decision, it's rights holders and governments on both sides of the border that decide what must be done. As stated many times, you've been lucky that it's been allowed to go on for this long.
 

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It's not an SD decision, it's rights holders and governments on both sides of the border that decide what must be done. As stated many times, you've been lucky that it's been allowed to go on for this long.
I can't help but ask if the word "governments" (above) should be "government" (singular). It seems like Canadian protectionism. I doubt that the American government gives one hoot if anyone sitting on American soil receives Canadian programming via Shaw or otherwise. Doing so presents absolutely no threat whatever to Dish or DirecTV or any American cable company.

What is so incongruous in all this is that at my summer home in Quebec I can receive all American major networks via Shaw or Bell or Cogeco Cable. But try to get ICI Tele or CBC or TVA in the US by any means possible and somebody in Canada says "no way!"

As far as "rights holders" is concerned, to me it's tantamount to a Canadian author writing a book and then saying "ya can't read it if you're outside Canada". I do understand that it's their "right", but c'mon!! What I find really inconsistent in the "rights holder" position is that I have had absolutely no problem ordering and receiving (in the US) DVD's of Les Pays d'en Haut (ICE Tele Series), but watch it in the US on TV?? No way.

Just venting! :)
 

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I can't help but ask if the word "governments" (above) should be "government" (singular). It seems like Canadian protectionism. I doubt that the American government gives one hoot if anyone sitting on American soil receives Canadian programming via Shaw or otherwise. Doing so presents absolutely no threat whatever to Dish or DirecTV or any American cable company.

What is so incongruous in all this is that at my summer home in Quebec I can receive all American major networks via Shaw or Bell or Cogeco Cable. But try to get ICI Tele or CBC or TVA in the US by any means possible and somebody in Canada says "no way!"

As far as "rights holders" is concerned, to me it's tantamount to a Canadian author writing a book and then saying "ya can't read it if you're outside Canada". I do understand that it's their "right", but c'mon!! What I find really inconsistent in the "rights holder" position is that I have had absolutely no problem ordering and receiving (in the US) DVD's of Les Pays d'en Haut (ICE Tele Series), but watch it in the US on TV?? No way.

Just venting! :)
I totally agree. Protectionism,socialism and lack of freedom! Canada is acting like minorities.Isolating your population to protect your identity.Americans couldn't care less about us
Canadians receiving Canadian programming!
 

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I doubt that the American government gives one hoot if anyone sitting on American soil receives Canadian programming via Shaw or otherwise.
Actually, they do because of the electromagnetic spectrum. I also mentioned rights holders who also care. You can talk about your preferences all you like, but we're not talking about preferences, we're talking about legalities. No amount of venting or preferences will stop SD from cutting satellite signals to the southern provinces.

On the whole, this will soon all be moot because the technology is headed towards IPTV and streaming.
 

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As far as "books" and french language media available in the USA. That's because you pay/paid for them in the USA and a USA interest gets some of the $$ as a result. When you receive SD in the US no one in the USA gets a cent. The difference in the examples are very real!!. If there was a demand for French or English Canadian networks by the 300+ million US citizens it would be available.
You can't get warranty on a Sony item purchased in the USA (and most other electronics, etc., etc.)if you are using it in Canada because the CANADIAN distributor has been bypassed. That is the way the world works!!!
So if the French language programming is no longer available, (and I sympathize but noticed that that would be the case, quite a while ago, even commented that it wasn't fair) thne look at alternative methods as some have done. C'est la vie . I know probably not French Canadian dialect but that's the best this guy from Winnipeg can do. High school French wasn't well done and it was 56 years ago.
 

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I am using a VPN from the web called WIndscribe allowing me to connect in ''MTL old port'' and with this you can go to any site in French like TVS RC Sport etc
If you know someone friend of family having a ILLICO VIDEOTRON ACCOUNT LIKE MY SON YOU CAN HAVE everything ON YOUR COMPUTER AND CONNECT TO A TV
Nice! It's one of the few VPN working for RDS... With VPN though it's a constant struggle. They get detected and flagged then you have to find the next one. Fair game... Merci beaucoup pour l'information.
 

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Nice! It's one of the few VPN working for RDS... With VPN though it's a constant struggle. They get detected and flagged then you have to find the next one. Fair game... Merci beaucoup pour l'information.
I been using this VPN for 5 years ans never had a problem and they also have a so call whitelist and if you have a problem they will fix it.
 

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Nice! It's one of the few VPN working for RDS... With VPN though it's a constant struggle. They get detected and flagged then you have to find the next one. Fair game... Merci beaucoup pour l'information.
Nearly all the GOOD, PAID VPN's work all the time. Only free ones are lousy. I recommend SurfEasy - try it for a month.
 

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Actually, they do because of the electromagnetic spectrum. I also mentioned rights holders who also care. You can talk about your preferences all you like, but we're not talking about preferences, we're talking about legalities. No amount of venting or preferences will stop SD from cutting satellite signals to the southern provinces.

On the whole, this will soon all be moot because the technology is headed towards IPTV and streaming.
The American government DOES give a hoot, and when I say 'government; I mean CORPORATIONS! Hollywood sells shows to Canada for way less than they do to American affiliates. So, to protect those stations, why would they want to allow a Canadian company to compete from a less expensive standpoint? And then there's NFL blackout rules - CTV runs loads of games that may not be available to American viewers right across the border. But that's been going on for years. Luckily, there are so few CDN satellite installations in the U.S. they generally turn a blind eye.
 

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Right. So streaming from a Firestick or other device only works with an active account in Canada. So you pay or you know someone who is willing to violate their terms of service by sharing their account.
 

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Right. So streaming from a Firestick or other device only works with an active account in Canada. So you pay or you know someone who is willing to violate their terms of service by sharing their account.
I imagine, going forward, if F2 implodes and there are no more southern footprints, the only way will be to maintain a CDN address account, get a VPN, and stream whatever works. Sucks. Streaming just sucks. lol
 
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