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Navigatr : https://www.rogers.com/web/support/tv/nextbox/9087

Edit by @57: Rogers started rolling out Navigatr to some areas on July 28th. It erased the HDDs on many 8642s and is an abomination of an interface. It's discussed in more detail in this thread and on the Rogers forum. Rogers stopped the rollout to other areas for several months, however, as of late December, the rollout recommenced and "everyone" with 8642, 9865, 4642 NextBoxes has it now (excepting a few people running SARA on their (early) 8642s)

Navigatr is used on 4642, 8642, 8600, 9865, CAV10242, CAV10455 STBs.


Tip: Try pressing buttons like "Info" "Settings" "Guide" "OK/Select" in various modes like when you're watching live or watching recorded programming. You will then see what those buttons do (if anything). You can even try "A" "B" "C" or "D" "Page+" "Page-" ">" "<" "Down", "Up". If something happens that you don't want, you can usually hit "exit" to get out of any situation.


I've created a new summary of issues for the latest Navaigtr, along with some tips - see link below:

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/61-rogers-cable-tv-hd-pvr-discussion/202473-cisco-9865-nb3-0-also-nb2-8642-summary-list-good-bad-huh-3.html#post2838305



Gdkitty has developed the following "How To" guide over on the Rogers Forum. Some of the information is copied from my information with my blessing:

Navigatr Guide - How To - Rogers Community


Useful link for those new to Navigatr: Solved: Re: Nextbox 3.0 recording issue - Page 4 - Rogers Community


Summary of Issues (From Rogers' Forum - July 28th Version - For Historical Purposes Only)
 

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Perhaps I should give them the benefit of the doubt. However with Rogers past history of launching new things I can only imagine that this new guide will be launched and it will take another year to iron out the bugs! Meanwhile, customers will once again be left in the lurch!
 

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Interesting. Kinda knew this was coming. The getting started guide my friend got a few months ago had this guide in the photo but in a different colour scheme.

Looks nice and hopefully isn't buggy and laggy like RTN. Sadly (or maybe not) I just cancelled by TV subscription so I won't get a chance to check this out. Hopefully the rollout goes smoothly for everyone.
 

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First takes:
[1]It's still a 2 hours window and only 5 channels. - Thumbs way down.
[2]Nothing new here. Its just new graphics on top of almost identical functionality. - Thumbs down and a big yawn.
[3]Is it my imagination or has Rogers stolen the look of Windows 8 for the new graphics theme? - Why bother?

So that's two thumbs down, a big yawn and a why bother. That pretty much sums it up from here. Some day, maybe Rogers will actually introduce something useful like configurable opacity for overlays, better skip options, improving stability, fixing the guide bugs or a configurable guide download time. More than a 5 channel by 2 hour window in the guide, configurable of course, would be a big improvement. But wait, that would mean some real programming on the part of Cisco and Rogers might have to invest some real money into Nextbox development. Better forget about that. Let's face it, all we are going to get out of Cisco/Rogers is a bunch of cosmetic crap to fool the masses into thinking there is anything being done about real issues.
 

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It looks like the onscreen bar for the fast forward and rewind is going to be alot narrower. That's a plus. So annoying that it takes up soo much screen space right now. I'm hoping the new guide will work faster on the Nextbox 2.0. The current guide is very slow to respond sometimes.
 

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While I agree.. it would have been nicer to see a longer than 2 hour window at a time..

That could also run into issues of show name display issues.

With limited width, a lot of names will be severely cut off on the grid view.
 

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I agree with most of these posts. WHY??? It looks exactly the same to me, just more headaches to figure everything out. Also you can't keep the old guide
I hope I'm wrong, but I see another failure coming up, lol
 

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The other thing I really, *really* want to see are season and episode data for TV series. Every other PVR I've ever seen or used has this but it's totally missing in Rogers guides. This is essential to make sense of TV series and it's totally missing on Rogers. Why am I forced to look episodes up on Zap2It or TV.com and try to match up shows using vague or confusing guide descriptions? It's even worse when descriptions are missing, which happens way to often with Rogers.
 

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Other than just cosmetic changes, I don't see anything new with this update. At least give us channel logos. It's not the year 2000 anymore.
 

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I noticed the channel names are in a very small font. I hope it's bigger in the final product next week. It looks like this video was produced back in early March so hopefully they have fixed up a few things since then.
 

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6 Recordings Only

According to one of the video presentations you can now only record 6 programs at the same time, not 8. Anyone else have comments on this matter.
 

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@wysiwyg
That would be nice. like my post above, about series images.. I wonder though if stuff like that might add too much overhead? (take longer to load the images)
@GaryE
We will have to see. I wonder if its made smaller.. to fit MORE of the description in? (same reason why I don't think there is more than 2 hours.. would make the boxes too small and be cutting off names a lot)
@sammey
Did I miss a video? I didn't hear anything on the 3 videos about 6 channels.
Though if there is.. am guessing its a mistake, etc? Since this will be rolled out to the NB2 as well.. which can only do 2.
 

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gdkitty, I am talking about the channel names under the channel numbers on the left side of the guide. The size of the font is soo small. There is room to make the channel names bigger. Like take out the dash before and after the names and use a bigger font. But as i said this was an early production video so maybe they have changed it already for the release next week.
 

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According to one of the video presentations you can now only record 6 programs at the same time, not 8. Anyone else have comments on this matter.
The video only showed 6 programs that WERE recorded. Doesn't mean they have cut the number of shows that CAN be recorded. They don't really mention the number of shows that can be recorded since the new guide will be the same on the 2.0 and 3.0 but the 2.0 only records 2 shows at once.
 

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10-4, you are correct. I guess I didn't read it right, must explain why I am going for cataract surgery in mid Aug. Thanks again
 
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