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Yes, the IgniteTV remotes are RF to the box and IR to the TV and/or AVR. They work extremely well.

Some Harmony remotes also have RF capability, however, I believe that refers to the connection between the remote and the hub, if applicable, and the hub sends IR to the receiving device (box, TV, AVR, etc).

I don't know if the Harmony Remotes/Hubs can send RF directly to the device, but they probably don't since lots of people have lots of issues with Hub placement and the Rogers box, or directionality with a stand-alone Harmony remote. That would not be the case if they sent RF to the receiving device.
 

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In addition to IR, the Harmony Hub support standard bluetooth and wifi remote protocols for controlling devices. The Harmony Companion remote communicates with the Harmony Hub using RF, not sure if its wifi, bluetooth or proprietary. As far as I know, all other Harmony remotes use IR only. If the Ignite box uses non-standard RF remote protocols, the hub would revert to IR. I wouldn't be surprised if that was the case as proprietary BDU boxes tend to either ignore electronics industry standards or implement them poorly.
 

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My Harmony remote is the Elite model which I believe is capable in both RF and IR. Once I am familiar with the buttons of the XiOne remote, I will program the Harmony remote.

Also, when Rogers technician set up Ignite-TV, I think he paired the remote to the soundbar . What happens now is when I am streaming with nVidia Shield, the Ignite-TV would sometimes turn on. How do I turn this off because I prefer to use the Harmony Elite to turn on and off the devices?
 

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Make sure that HDMI-CEC is turned off on all your devices, otherwise one may turn another on.

See item 4 of the following FAQ:

 

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My Harmony remote is the Elite model which I believe is capable in both RF and IR.
The Harmony Elite remote uses the Harmony Hub to communicate with devices so it is compatible with IR, bluetooth and wifi remotes as noted above. The Elite remote is a more expensive version of the Companion remote that also works with the Harmony Hub.
 

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Is there anywhere I can find a proper manual for the XiOne box?
For example, I see a few LED (?) in the front of the box but I have no idea what they are.
AFAIK, there isn't a manual per se, same as a lot of electronics today. There is a knowledgebase and FAQs on Rogers' forum/website which has tips on how to do things:


Before I got IgniteTV, I read through or watched all of the knowledgebase articles.


I believe the LED signifies that the unit is "on", although it is never really "off" it's in standby and uses exactly the same amount of power. Hint - do not try to adjust the brightness of the lights in the setup menu since that may cause them to not work properly.

As I mentioned earlier, the Rogers forum (and website) is really where you want to go for information and answers. There is a lot of expertise there and if you read (or search) some of the recent threads in the IgniteTV forum, many of the items have already been discussed there (like Harmony)
 

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The information in the 2 booklets are really poor. Not sure why they even bother.

For instance, there are 6 RJ45 ports in the back of the modem. I can see from the booklet that the top left port is for home phone. It does not say which port to connect if I want to connect to an external wireless router (bridge ).

I looked around and still did not find any information on the LED of the Ignite-TV. I do not see them turned on at all.
 

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If "they" are not on, then "they" may be the IR eye of the device?
Probably not. I counted 6 LEDs. Like I said, they never lit up. I will investigate and report back.
I added a new activity in my Harmony for Ignote-TV. All good as far.

Question: Picture quality of live TV seems better. Is Rogers live TV is still 1080p?
 

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IgniteTV channels stream at 1080P, except for 4K channels, which are 4K. Legacy Digital Cable was 1080i or 720P or 4K. See:


I also find IgniteTV superior to legacy for PQ
 

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The difference between 1080i and 1080p should not be that noticeable except in fast action scenes such as those found in live sports. The difference is probably due to aggressive lossy MPEG2 compression used by legacy TV services which degrades picture quality. Newer IPTV services usually use H.264 or H.265 compression which has less picture degradation for the same amount of compression.
 

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The difference between 1080i and 1080p should not be that noticeable except in fast action scenes such as those found in live sports. The difference is probably due to aggressive lossy MPEG2 compression used by legacy TV services which degrades picture quality. Newer IPTV services usually use H.264 or H.265 compression which has less picture degradation for the same amount of compression.
I can notice the difference maybe because my TV is 85-inch.
 

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Is that using the same source material, the same media or service, the same compression, the same delivery process and the same hardware? Picture degradation can be introduced at numerous points in the delivery process. It could also depend on how well the TV (or other device in the chain) does the conversion from 1080i to 1080p. It is well known that 1080i to 1080p conversion can create artifact that are noticeable and that faster frame rates look better (60p vs 24p for example) but the 1080i to 1080p conversion itself should not be noticeable with most content. As most broadcast television stations use 1080i or 720p, that content would have little difference when viewed at 1080p unless the conversion was done with very good or very poor hardware. If the programing was converted to 1080p directly from the original, uncompressed programming and compressed with a low loss or lossless CODEC then that would provide a much better looking picture. Downgrading that to a lower resolution, such as 1080i, and using a lossy CODEC, such as MPEG2, to deliver the content would be noticeable.
 

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With Rogers Digital service, I find the 1080i excellent. The largest screen is 43" and from 10 feet away 1080p does not look any better.
 

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Wider bandwidth and newer CODECs used by IPTV and streaming services have allowed better picture quality to be delivered to viewers. The biggest amount of HDTV picture degradation was usually caused by limited bandwidth and inefficient, lossy compression schemes used on systems and equipment that were originally designed and built to deliver NTSC (SD) programming to consumers. Some early HD receivers caused significant picture quality loss. The deterioration of HD signals really became apparent as the number of HDTV channels and the amount of lossy compression used increased. By using state of the art compression and video hardware designed for HDTV and UHDTV, and high speed internet technology most of that has been resolved.
 
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