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Hi guys,

This is my first post and I hope you will be patient with me.
My postal code is J3Y 0L1, I am located in South-Shore of Montreal (St-Hubert, Quebec).
I currently use an RCA indoor antenna and I'm getting around 12 OTA channels (including few american channels).
I'm planning to install an outdoor antenna inside the attic + signal booster so I can get 20channels or more.
Can you please tell me which antenna and which signal booster is best for my situation?
I was hesitating between these two antennad, based on their reviews:



The elevation will be around 25ft. There are no trees and no big buildings around my house.

This is my TVFool report:

Thank you!
Hi,
I'm just a few km from you and I get 33 channels with a hand made antenna. No amp and my antenna is about 30 feet high. You don't need to spend a lot of many to get the channels. I turned my antenna in the direction of Orford and I was able to get an extra two channels.
 

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If it's 30 feet high most probably it's installed outside, on the roof.
What type of antenna do you have ?
It's a 4 bay bowtie antennas . I used PVC tube because of the weather. Yes it is outside. I added a reflector to get ABC after the fire. Before that, i didn't need one. I guess after the new antenna is up and running, I will be in a position to remove it. Let me know if you need more details
 

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Noticed that change yesterday evening.
WFFF is now steady at 100% strength and 100% quality. Impressive.
WVNY is now steady at 94% strength and 70% quality. Still good.
Good work up there.
Standing by for the CBS/NBC update...

note: ant is 32 el. log periodic at 35 ft and kt-200. Location Varennes. TV is Panasonic (old plasma) and HDHomeRun Duo on network.
 

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My reception as follows:

WFFF with an old 4228: 91 %.
WVNY with a Delhi 10y13s: 61%

This is with the signal meter of a TiVo HD.
Location west Beloeil.


Not bad for WVNY channel 7 with a Delhi 10y13s (made for channel 13), there was a naysayer (here in an other thread) that was telling me in 2017 after the repack channel allocation was announced that It will be impossible for me to receive WVNY with my 10y13s after the repack. Impossible...


Don't believe TVFool at 100%, it is just an indication.

Note: I asked the chief engineer of WFFF/WVNY some other questions but he is on vacation.
 

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I have a Delhi 10y13s as well, which was useful for when WVNY was broadcasting on RF 13. From my location in Ville St-Laurent, I can no longer receive WVNY since the channel repack from last July. My antenna is outside on roof, at about 28 ft elevation from the ground. I also use a legacy CM-7777 pre-amp with separate UHF - VHF inputs, with much success over the years. According to TVFool, my elevation puts me at the cusp of LOS / 1-edge reception of the Mt. Mansfield transmitters. This probably explains why I have less luck receiving WVNY than @intravino with this same antenna. My reception is solidly "zero" when scanning in RF 7 and I don't receive as much as the broadcast station call letters.

I purchased a Stellar Labs VHF-hi antenna (#30-2476) and I plan on replacing my Delhi 10y13s VHF with this, in the hopes I can recover reception of WVNY. Will keep you posted if my WVNY receptions improves when I swap these antennas.

I spoke to Raybel first week of July when I was exploring whether to purchase an RF 7 channel-cut antenna. The price put me off, since it was over $300 for this commercial-grade antenna (made by Taco). But the store associate mentionned that a number of Montrealers were receiving WVNY on RF 7 "well" with 8-bay antennas (CM 4228 or others). Is that so ?

On the UHF side, I use an AntennasDirect 91XG pointed straight at Mt. Mansfield. This gives me "solid" reception of CBS, NBC, FOX, PBS-V and PBS-NY. The local channels all seem to come from a side-lobe and I haven't run into amp overload issues this way. These high-gain yagi antennas I am using are indeed quite directional.

Why run into all this for "just" one channel you ask? It's the 22.4 Quest programming I quite like, as it brings shows you would typically find on cable channels such as Discovery, National Geographic, or others.

I will report back on how the Stellar Labs VHF antenna works for me for WVNY. Let's say I'm cautiously optimistic..
 

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@STL My reception of WVNY is getting worst since they tweeked the antenna (vaporware). It went from 70% to 55 % since mid-August, probably tropo. I had to order a stellar labs antenna, to see the difference and I am worried about rain fade etc. BTW, the technican price at Newark is $24.30 CAD for the 30-2476. Ask for it, I found out after ordering it unfortunately.

As for the Wade/Taco, Jean confirmed to me that Wade wants an order of 10 minimum and it went up in pricing to near $400, nine times the price of the Stellar.
 

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I installed my Stellar Labs VHF antenna (#30-2476) yesterday and had it pointed right at Mt. Mansfield at the top of my chimney-attached mast. This is 30-32 ft above ground. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to pull in WVNY on RF7. I tried a few different tilt angles and orientations.. and not once did the screen show anything else but a field of snow. Meanwhile, other local VHF channels (TVA, CTV) are received by the Stellar Labs so that eliminated any gross connection mistake.

I scanned again in morning, afternoon and evening to see if I could at least claim to catch something, but no.

I wonder how others are faring at catching RF7 in Montreal.. I read posts on the MontrealOTA twitter group saying that it got much harder to pull in on RF7 than RF13, despite a broadcast power increase.

My only remaining option before giving up would be to build a channel-specific yagi. But somehow I doubt the 2-3 dB increased performance over the Stellar Labs would be enough for reliable reception.

Look forward to reading if others have had more success and how.
 

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Hi STL!

for myself, WVNY 22.1 (RF 7) reception as gotten better. I currently receive this channel at 60% with my RCA ANT-751 antenna pointed at Mt. Mansfield. I live in Lachine and the antenna is on top of a 30’ tower attached to the house.

I was planning to buy the Stellar Labs 30-2476 but after reading your post I’m not sure anymore.
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I installed my Stellar Labs VHF antenna (#30-2476) yesterday and had it pointed right at Mt. Mansfield at the top of my chimney-attached mast. This is 30-32 ft above ground. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to pull in WVNY on RF7. I tried a few different tilt angles and orientations.. and not once did the screen show anything else but a field of snow. Meanwhile, other local VHF channels (TVA, CTV) are received by the Stellar Labs so that eliminated any gross connection mistake.

I scanned again in morning, afternoon and evening to see if I could at least claim to catch something, but no.

I wonder how others are faring at catching RF7 in Montreal.. I read posts on the MontrealOTA twitter group saying that it got much harder to pull in on RF7 than RF13, despite a broadcast power increase.

My only remaining option before giving up would be to build a channel-specific yagi. But somehow I doubt the 2-3 dB increased performance over the Stellar Labs would be enough for reliable reception.

Look forward to reading if others have had more success and how.
 
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