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Procedures for Buying and Selling of BTV Receivers - See Post 1

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I had a 3100, a 5800 and a 5900 in the house. Thinking of going HD. Question, if I get a HD receiver, am I allowed to sell the 3100 or the 5800. There are quite a few for sale (at decent prices) on certain famous auction sites. Not sure if Bev allows that anymore.


Edit by 57 - 2011.10.25. You should not sell or buy 9200 or 6100 receivers since they are being phased out and BTV will not activate them. See link below for more on the topic: (They can still be used for OTA so they may have some value to someone interested in that option)

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?p=1342097#post1342097


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Don't cut up your cards, it will make the receivers pretty much useless to a legit subber, see that it will cost $69 to replace them each.
You can tell the CSR to let "whoever call's in" or"let anybody" activate it after you sell it.
You don't have to tell them a name, you can tell the CSR to let "whoever call's in" or "let anybody" activate it after you sell it. They will enter that into the system.
Lidcalc has not worked for dp receivers since last year, a frimware upgrade changed the algorthymn.

All the same the location id is not affected by the phone line, what th SAT team told AEV was incorect. Like what was said above it is generated by the recevier id and time.
why don't you sell it on the digital home buy and sell thread.

50 for each

Do you own the 4100? Or is it a rental? If it was a rental they should of took it back. You also can't sell it if it was a rental.
Well you can sell it even though it is not legally yours, the buyer might me able to use it to pirate expressvu, it's not like actually cares what happens to expressvu receivers after they are desubbed. If they wanted to sub on it they would have to pay a rental fee, which defeats the point of buying it.

It would make more sense if they paid 15-20 to get it sent back, they could always rent it out or use it as a refrib.

I would call them one last time, and get the CSR's name and id#(and possibly record the conversation if you could, and tell the csr that it is being recorded) and tell them to send you a box to return the receiver or your throwing it in the garbage.

Knowing bell you might throw out the receiver tomorrow (without contacting them first)and the next day get a bill for $99 for a unreturned receiver, and if you refused to pay they would probley sell the balance eto a collection agency.
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I'm not a agent, but I bought and sold a few second hand receivers.
You should be able to call it with the ID and find out if you can sub on it. The current owner also needs to call in and transfer ownership to you.

There is now the issue of the new smart cards again as well, because if they were already issued to the owner and he did not activate them in the receiver you will have to buy a new one.

So if your talking to the CSR you should ask if the new Smart Card (nagra 3) has been issued for the unit, and if it has make sure it is included when you buy it. During the last card swap alot of people kept the new issued cards (to sell or hack) and sold the receiver with the old card, so the buyer would have to pay 69 bucks for a card to use the receiver.

PS To confused things some more some 9200 are cardless (although they will require a new card for the current swap), and some later models I believe have cards (?refurbished models) which still will need to be swapped soon.
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Yes, I wouldn't worry about. There is nothing they could do with it. They probley want to call expressvu to confirm the receiver is able to be activated.
There isn't, its no good to you, sell it or throw it away.
If the receiver is on an inactive account, you can transfer it to yours. Just call to get someone who knows the policy.
Bell will not activate a receiver that is registered under someone else's name, it does not matter if it active or inactive.

The registered owner has to call in to transfer ownership.
Just call in and try to add it to your account again and if they say no ask if it is still on a active account or not. Again I wil stand by what I said, they will not active it regardless of status the previous owners account (actve or closed).

You should just ask the owner to transfer it for you.
Bell requiring previous owners to call in first to transfer ownership

Yeah I calll to add 2 receivers to my account in the past week and both time3s the CSR said the previous owner will to call in first.. In the first instance the receicer was never activated (BNIB), so I told he that and it wasn't a insue. For the second I told the owner to call in before he shipped it to me, so I told the CSR that the owner had called in and since my name was there it was added nto my account.

The previous owner had closed his account over a year ago! He still had to call in before the receiver could be transfered, so wether it is Bell's policy or not, each CSR might have a different interpretatiion of it so the previous owner should call bell to transfer owership even if the account that the receiver belongs to is closed.
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Well it was a unactivated receiver, still sealed in the box, and the receiver still sealed in the electro-protective plastic and all the cable sealed, so I knew it would 't be a issue.
I don't think tracking down someone selling a rental receiver will be very high on the Police priority list, maybe I'm wrong.

All that might result is the receiver going back to Bell and no money going back to you.
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