Procedures for Buying and Selling of BTV Receivers - See Post 1

Reporting to Flea Bay 9200's & 6100's

I have just spent 35 minutes on the phone with Flea Bay, reporting listings of 9200 & 6100 model Receivers, that should NOT be there for the reasons we are all well aware of.

I got through to a supervisor who deals with Bell TV and their Fraud Department on many other issues, it was an interesting conversation and thought I would share with you.

She tells me that Bell have yet to confirm in writing that these receivers are no longer being activated. (I sent her a .pdf).

She will verify my .pdf with her contact asap, she believes me but she is following the correct channels, good for her.

She had NO idea the 6100 was also included in this situation, nothing from Bell to indicate this at all.....

In my run-up to this call today, I took the liberty to contact 4 of the sellers of the 9200's and obtain R00#'s. I then used my contacts to check these number3.

THREE are from 9200 models, that have been swapped out already.....

When Bell told us that the 9200 could be kept, do we think they should have also told us that they can no longer be sold for the purpose of being a Satellite Receiver.? Is this something they missed on their part, as now people are selling them and believing they can be activated or are sellers just trying to scam the buyer.?

Wow Bell, what a mess.

Lots of posts moved to this thread. The web is full of stuff that is misrepresented or is stolen. It is the responsibility of the buyer to check to see if what he buys can be used for the intended purpose and certainly not to believe a seller, especially if it's an individual.

There are lots of stolen Motorola, SA, etc STBs that are not activated by major cable providers (Shaw, Rogers, US) etc, yet they are still for sale. The 9200 case is slightly different in that they are not stolen, and they can still be used for OTA. Some smaller (Cable) providers will still activate Motorola STBs (even if stolen), but the trade in these decreased tremendously when the majors started refusing to activate them.

Pinza, thanks for your efforts with eBay, but since the STBs can be sold quite legally for OTA use, I don't think a blanket ban on them is appropriate.

As an FYI, there are some cable STBs that are legitimate sales - from a customer in good standing to another customer with the same cable company (Videotron, Rogers, Shaw, Cogeco, etc.)

As always: Caveat Emptor.

Such a nice thread about the 6100 - 9200. Left Bev 5 months ago and found a friend who wanted to buy the two working receivers I have sitting around. Went to install them and found out about the new "will not activate" policy. Talked to a supervisor with Bev and was told they are now useless. Very upset but nothing I can do. Just to be aware the supervisor told me it was in the customers best interest to have the entire Bev system updated to mpeg4. Now if we know anything about compression and have 2 working eyes it is evident that mpeg4 is more compressed than mpeg2 and from what I see the viewing experience was better with the mpeg2. So in the long run yes a subscriber will get more channels with mpeg4 but less quality. Just what we all wanted when many have gone to great expense to have the ability of 1080p along with all the expensive equipment to run it. All the big players are going the same direction. Telus optik is no exception. I can see a real degrade in quality using optik after having the old mpeg2 Bev. They all want to give us more of the lower quality mpeg4 channels. Lovely.