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hugh...why panamax?

hugh...was at a store and the salesman was really big on panamax. our area has real power issues (outages, surges, etc).

anyway, finding out more on panamax is not that easy. why do you like their surge stuff so much>?

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First let me say that after spending several hours talking to engineers a few years ago about these products, I am convinced of their benefits if you have expensive A/V components. I have my 1080p projector, PS3, receiver, mono amp, dvd player, hd pvr, LAN cable, coax cable and slingbox plugged into it.

BTW: I'm talking the rugged power conditioners not the bars.

I think there are several brands that are good quality including panamax. I choose Panamax because I felt it was a good quality product, I liked the look and I got a good price.

Panamax has been around for years and has a good history. Product is well built and looks good in you A/V unit.

I have the M5100-ex.

Two bits of advice: Don't buy more than you need, you're wasting your money and there is no reason why you can't negotiate a good discount on one since retailers have a good margin on them.

The one that I have retails for about $499 and I paid significantly less.

I do not recommend buying a bigger
 

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One aspect of surge suppression that is often overlooked is the power receptacle energizing the surge suppressor. Conditions can exist that trick the unit into giving you the impression it is protecting, when it is not.
This article on grounding explains best.
 

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Will Tripplite TLP808TELTV do the job for me?

I have a Sharp 37" LCD with a AVR, VCR, Bell Sat, and DVD. Will this Tripplite TLP808TELTV be a suitable to protect my setup? In the specs it says it has noise filtering, will I see any difference with pic quality with this versus direct wall plug in?

Thanks, Mark
 

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Hugh...do you see/hear any improved picture or sound quality? Or is it simply for protection? I live in Calgary, and as of yet have not had any issues with the local power. I do have an APC PH8VT3 for my equipment, and was wondering if I was due for an upgrade.

57...can you comment on this as well? Id really like to know, as I not only want my equipment to be protected, but I want the best pq/sq i can get with my equipment.
 

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My comment is that if the power coming into your home is good quality, then such a device should not be necessary. The power supplies in equipment should be able to handle the minor variations in power and any "noise" in the line.

People with high end equipment seem to use these devices. I use a relatively inexpensive UPS. One person's opinion.
 

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I have the same opinion as 57. Most AV devices need smooth clean DC power from the power supply and if you think about it, the 60Hz AC power would be considered noise (especially for audio) and the devices seem to handle it pretty well on their own.
 

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Do you ever think you have CLEAN and GOOD power coming into your house? and how can you tell? Do you only use your equipment only WHEN your power is CLEAN and GOOD???

I really recommend the line conditioners from PS Audio, an audiophile company that specialize in power products for the last 10 years. It starts at only US$295 and will trash the Monster stuff and other companies gear for the computer market.

Their web site is www.psaudio.com
 

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Do you ever think you have CLEAN and GOOD power coming into your house? and how can you tell? Do you only use your equipment only WHEN your power is CLEAN and GOOD???
I don't expect my power is "CLEAN and GOOD." My point is that the power would have to be extremely dirty for you to be able to see or hear the difference. The makers of power filters do a good job of fooling people into thinking their equipment is fragile and needs crystal clean power. The reality is good pieces of equipment have good power supplies that filter out all this noise and external power filtering is not necessary.

Brownouts, blackouts and power surges are another story and protection from them is a good idea.
 

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I don't know how GOOD a equipment need to be so that the internal power supply will filter out ALL the noise on the line.

My $20000 ATC powered speakers benefit a LOT with the use of the PS Audio Duet line conditioner, without any lost of dynamic and bass punch. All the brightness is gone.

That US$300 is money well spent, not only with greatly improved audio, but they claimed to be the best surge AND spike protection available.
 

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thoughts on whole-home surge surpression and ups vs. stand alone?

was looking at a panamax 5300 but wondering if i should do a whole-home protector to also protect all the other electronics in my home instead of just the home theater. Would adding a UPS at the home theater ontop of the whole home supression be worthwhile? thx
 

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Having a surge protector at your source electrical panel is not a bad idea, I believe you could have one installed for less than 500.
 

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I don't know how GOOD a equipment need to be so that the internal power supply will filter out ALL the noise on the line.
The internal power supply in most CE equipment acts as a big filter between the power line AC (Alternating Current) and the DC (Direct Current) needs. Any filtering should really be done at the DC side so as to ensure that no 60Hz gets through as noise. Filtering at the AC side is really a marketting gimmick. Protecting from surges and brown outs on the other hand is a smart investment.
 

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Would you recommend getting a single combo UPS + Surge protector for a home theatre, or get one and one and put them in series?

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I'm a fan of Panamax but Both are trusted brands.
 

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As hugh says, both are trusted brands and will do an excellent job. Two advantages to the particular Belkin you are looking at: two more oulets than the Panamax (13 vs 11) and the front outlet is covered when not in use which just (IMO) looks better.
 

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Hi, I'm considering between Panamax 5100-pm or Belkin pf-60. Which one is better quality and wich won would you buy?

Is Panamax made by Panasonic? and is it true that Belkin has alot of return because of defects? I read that on a other thread.

Belkin offers level 4 filter and Panamax level 3, does this make a difference?

Also I notice that the Panamax m5400-pm has Voltage Regulation
"Improve system performance and prolong equipment life by providing a consistent level of optimal power to your equipment".

When I use my laser printer it dims the lights in my office and living room, this option should cure my diming? and should better protect my home thearter? or would a lesser model like Panamax 5300 and Belkin would be enough.

Also can I get a equivalent product like the m5400-pm from a other companies in around $450.
 

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rayvick, I think you need to assess your needs then examine which model would be right for you rather than simply posting a lot of questions here. These companies all offer different models based on different needs.

I have merged all your posts into one and I highly recommend you do your research first and then ask your questions. Most of your questions, such as who owns Panamax, and what levels of pwer conditioning each offer, could all be answered by simply visiting the companies respective websites
 
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