[eimaj]

i saw this player on the canadian panny website and was wondering if any of you have heard anything about it. i would also like to know if this would be a worthy upgrade over my sony dvp-ns725p player. i tried the sony 975 (i think that's the number) up-converting player and did a side-by-side with the 725 and there was virtually no picture difference on my panny 34" ws (34wx54). definitely not worth the hundreds i spent on the player and the cable.

on another thread, one of the guys was saying there was a noticeable difference between his pioneer player and the panny s97 on his sony 34" ws, and i was wondering if anyone has a similar tv to mine and has switched from a sony player like mine to an upconverting player and seen any difference.

 

[RNAChemist]

the S77 is essentially the S97

 

[sharkman]

I recently got an s97 but I only have a 4:3 27" TV with 480i. But it easily outperformed my 3 yr old toshiba dvd player.

I have also recently purchased an LCD hi-def projector and it looks good on a 100" screen but I'm waiting to receive the HDMI cable to see what it looks like with the upconverting feature.

 

[Q]

I recently got an s97 but I only have a 4:3 27" TV with 480i. But it easily outperformed my 3 yr old toshiba dvd player.

I have also recently purchased an LCD hi-def projector and it looks good on a 100" screen but I'm waiting to receive the HDMI cable to see what it looks like with the upconverting feature.

Did you not get a HDMI cable? I got one with the S97.

 

[pete]

DVI/HDMI not working!!!

Hi everyone,

HELP NEEDED FAST!!

I bought a Panasonic DVD-S77 three days ago. Now my TV has a DVI input. So I bought a Monster adaptor to connect the HDMI cable (which came with the player) to my TV (from the DVD) . It was working fine for 2 days but today when I turned the player on, there was no picture and a message appeared on the DVD player display: U70-2
when I looked it up in the manual, it said that the message could mean:
- the connected equipment is not HDMI compatible.
- The HDMI cable is too long.
- The HDMI cable is damaged.

I tried everything form disconnecting and connecting again, turning it off and on, etc. Before returning the player, i wanted to make sure that there is no way of correcting it. Has any of you seen anything weird as this?

thank you guys,
Pete

 

[Q]

have you tried disconnecting all the HDMI connections and reconnecting?

It may not be the player but the cable or adaptor.........or even TV.

 

[pete]

DVI/HMDI not working!!??

Yes, as i said i did disconnect and connect all the cables and even the power source but to no avail. It's really weird because it worked just fine for two days. it could be the cable. i doubt it's the TV (Sony KF-50WE620).

but i'm returning it either way.

thanks anyways.

 

[CanadianMoFo]

Did you not get a HDMI cable? I got one with the S97.

My S77 came with a short black HDMI cable in the package. Maybe his was missed at the factory for some reason.

I hate to say it but I think the video quality on the HDMI input is better than my Denon 2900. Not so much the resoluton, but the colours are more accurate and I find that the details in dark scenes are more clear. It was certainly worth the $250 or so that I spent.

CM.

 

[RNAChemist]

Maybe the cable that came with the player was defective. The cable that came with my S97 seemed pretty flimsy, I bought another one from tigerdirect.

 

[pete]

HMDI dilemma

yes, the player came with an HDMI cable but as someone else said the cable looked flimsy; so I stuck with it because as you know a Monster cable costs about $150.

so it could be the cable OR maybe the player did not "like" the adaptor I used to connect the HDMI cable to the DVI input of my TV.

I'm returning it on monday . I may get a DVD HDD recorder (Toshiba or Panasonic) for now.

and besides, (during those 2 days that the player worked) even though the picture (with HDMI) looked a bit better (sharper and colorwise) than component video, the macroblocking was just really annoying. i tried a few DVDs, and the only DVD i noticed there was almost no macroblocking was Revenge of the Sith. The quality of those Star Wars movies are excellent. I prefer Laserdiscs in some areas to DVDs. One is that the video is analog and it is not compressed (unlike DVDs) and as a result there is no macroblocking.

Based on the research that I did on the internet, I don't think (actually I'm sure) this HDMI technology has not been perfected yet. So we'd better wait until february and the introduction of HD DVD and then the prices of regular DVD players will fall.

 

[EMAGDNIM]

Did you not get a HDMI cable? I got one with the S97.

I guess he was getting a longer cable...

 

[rayzerman]

Yes, as i said i did disconnect and connect all the cables and even the power source but to no avail. It's really weird because it worked just fine for two days. it could be the cable. i doubt it's the TV (Sony KF-50WE620).

but i'm returning it either way.

thanks anyways.

I have a similar situation (error U70-3) which also implies incompatability. It worked at first, but not since. Contacted Panasonic who first said they were at HDMi 1.1 and perhaps my Sony SXRD was only 1.0. I reminded them the HDMI spec is to be fully backward compatable, then they suggested a hard reset procedure. This didn't fix it, but they have contacted the factory for clarification of the error message.... Sony says they think the TV is HDMI 1.1 but are not 100% sure (how can that be??). I tried three different cables and it doesn't matter. I have 2 HDMI inputs on the TV, and both are fine since I get HD input from my ExpressVu HD PVR via HDMI with any cable on any input. I will wait for the next Panasonic comment, but expect I'll end up taking it in for a warranty repair (I can't return it). IF anyone hears of a solution, please let us know.

 

[rayzerman]

Update - Panasonic finally said return it for exchange, which I did today. The store plugged it in to a Panasonic TV and it worked just fine. They gave me another, confirmed to be working in the store, and when I got it hooked up to my Sony TV, same problem (U70-3). Obviously it is now a Sony issue, and it is not the cables or the DVD player.

 

[mufc99]

hi

I bought a S77 @ F.S to compare against my Pioneer DV 363 and found no difference in picture quality whether I used HDMI or component on the S77 or Component on the 363. I am taking the S77 back. My TV is Panny TH 42PD50 which is the ED version so maybe the S77 will work better on HD version of this TV

 

[Michael TLV]

I bought a S77 @ F.S to compare against my Pioneer DV 363 and found no difference in picture quality whether I used HDMI or component on the S77 or Component on the 363. I am taking the S77 back. My TV is Panny TH 42PD50 which is the ED version so maybe the S77 will work better on HD version of this TV

Greetings

I will show you the difference between the S77 tonight (variant) and your 363 pioneer.

Regards

 

[mufc99]

Well I spent most of the morning working with these two DVD Players.The 363 failed most tests{passed detail test} but the S77 did not pass as many as the LG. Through Component it failed the "Film Detail test" but passed through HDMI.When looking at the demo videos I still cannot distinguish any difference in movie quality even though I know my Pioneer was shown by the tests to be inferior.

 

[iron]

Hooked up S77 with Pioneer 4360HD plasma via HDMI cable. Noticed great picture quality imporvement by setting it to upconvert to 1080i vs. 480p.

 

[MediaRoomManiac]

Hooked up S77 with Pioneer 4360HD plasma via HDMI cable. Noticed great picture quality imporvement by setting it to upconvert to 1080i vs. 480p.

I think native resolution for most HDTVs are 720p so in effect you're throwing an upconverted from 480i to 1080i signal at your TV and it's doing a conversion back to 720p. I tried both 720p & 1080i on my set and they both looked similar. I'm assuming however it's better to just keep it at 720p just to reduce the amount of artifacts or signal degradation that's being introduced when performing so many conversions.

I'm sure someone else here will chime in with correct facts if i'm wrong.

 

[iron]

I think native resolution for most HDTVs are 720p

Most 42", 43" plasma HDTVs have a native resolution of 1024 x 768. So, 720p is closer to the native resolution. But I can see the difference of displaying more static/low pictures by showing it in 1080i than in 720p. 720p is supposed to be better for motions. But either way, no HD signal is in 1024 x 768, so I believe the TV has to do some sort of conversion from 1080i/720p to its native resolution.

 

[MediaRoomManiac]

Most 42", 43" plasma HDTVs have a native resolution of 1024 x 768. So, 720p is closer to the native resolution. But I can see the difference of displaying more static/low pictures by showing it in 1080i than in 720p. 720p is supposed to be better for motions. But either way, no HD signal is in 1024 x 768, so I believe the TV has to do some sort of conversion from 1080i/720p to its native resolution.

Yes, I think you're right.. since everytime I check the signal coming into my HD STB, it's always 1080i. Although it looks amazing, the TV is still doing work 'upconverting' the signal to 720p. Since the progressive signal is in effect better than having a line doubled interlaced signal.