redzone, Antra is just a marketing name for a variety of mostly FTA products brought over from China. There is an FTA dealer in Surrey BC that started bringing in the occasional Antra 4-bay bowtie OTA antenna but gave up due to the flimsiness and inadequate performance.
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Eaglestarr!!!
Yes it is a clone ,
I admit it is a clone. And you know what? I have had this thing running since early March up on my roof and it works great! Good height and a preamp and it is consistent. It has held up in these extreme weather conditions. Buy whatever you like, if it works use it! Where is channel master made anyways? Anybody know? Probably overseas! How many of you are buying channel master are buying domestic products? What do you drive ? Hope it is not an import. Just a thought.
Yes it is a clone ,
I admit it is a clone. And you know what? I have had this thing running since early March up on my roof and it works great! Good height and a preamp and it is consistent. It has held up in these extreme weather conditions. Buy whatever you like, if it works use it! Where is channel master made anyways? Anybody know? Probably overseas! How many of you are buying channel master are buying domestic products? What do you drive ? Hope it is not an import. Just a thought.
Another name, same people, same bad habits
Oh brother, here we go again...
Please take note that D i g i w a v e is now marketing its products under the "Electronic Master" name.
See Post #1 in this thread to understand why this is important.
This does not surprise me in the least that they are trying to plagiarize and abuse Channel Master's good name and reputation. There are trademark laws against this sort of thing.
Don't be fooled!
Oh brother, here we go again...
Please take note that D i g i w a v e is now marketing its products under the "Electronic Master" name.
See Post #1 in this thread to understand why this is important.
This does not surprise me in the least that they are trying to plagiarize and abuse Channel Master's good name and reputation. There are trademark laws against this sort of thing.
Don't be fooled!
More trademark infringement from that company: they've put out an antenna called... wait for it... could it be... yes, they stole the Channel Master model name "4228"!
http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=114608
Yep, still ripping people off. Nope, no originality or honour. I dare them to roll out a "Windows 7" line of antennas.
http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=114608
Yep, still ripping people off. Nope, no originality or honour. I dare them to roll out a "Windows 7" line of antennas.
Another misuse of the Channel Master name
Uh-oh, somebody made a big mess on the Research Electronic web site (Waterloo, ON) when they advertised one of those complete garbage all-in-one antenna/rotor jobbies as a:
"Channel Master or better Outdoor Amplified HDTV Motorized Antenna (Mast & Pole are included) (ANT-HD5100)"... I'm still trying to parse the grammar in that description.
That company needs a time out, and I'm sure Channel Master's legal department will be very interested in what seems to be fraudulent marketing.
Thanks to our member simonizer for the tipoff.
Uh-oh, somebody made a big mess on the Research Electronic web site (Waterloo, ON) when they advertised one of those complete garbage all-in-one antenna/rotor jobbies as a:
"Channel Master or better Outdoor Amplified HDTV Motorized Antenna (Mast & Pole are included) (ANT-HD5100)"... I'm still trying to parse the grammar in that description.
That company needs a time out, and I'm sure Channel Master's legal department will be very interested in what seems to be fraudulent marketing.
Thanks to our member simonizer for the tipoff.
I see a conspiracy of the cable and big tv companies here.....
They alllow crapy antennas to spawn un - checked across our nation and give people the wrong idea about ota ... until the market turns and everyone is forced to buy 30% compressed hdtv from the red and blue sumai wresling jugernauts of the broadcast industry
aaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwww
They alllow crapy antennas to spawn un - checked across our nation and give people the wrong idea about ota ... until the market turns and everyone is forced to buy 30% compressed hdtv from the red and blue sumai wresling jugernauts of the broadcast industry
aaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwww
Abuse of saveandreplay's good name
An installer in Scarborough is spamming this site and even trying to post as someone else in order to try to get business here, even claiming that he is affiliated with saveandreplay.com when we have confirmed with Grace that he definitely is not. She in fact mentions that he has been a real pain to them. When in doubt, call saveandreplay or ask Tom.F.1, who is with saveandreplay.
I'm not passing along that spammer's company name here but everyone needs to keep in mind that there is a big difference between a DHC member recommending a good installer at our site and a business person trying to spam their way through our forums, especially under false pretenses. We have several people in the OTA installer business who are full members in good standing here because they follow the rules of the forum and they respect that this site is itself a small business. I do not hesitate to recommend them.
All that spammer had to do was write up an advertising contract with Hugh (the smartest thing an OTA shop can do) but no, he had to try the dirty way.
An installer in Scarborough is spamming this site and even trying to post as someone else in order to try to get business here, even claiming that he is affiliated with saveandreplay.com when we have confirmed with Grace that he definitely is not. She in fact mentions that he has been a real pain to them. When in doubt, call saveandreplay or ask Tom.F.1, who is with saveandreplay.
I'm not passing along that spammer's company name here but everyone needs to keep in mind that there is a big difference between a DHC member recommending a good installer at our site and a business person trying to spam their way through our forums, especially under false pretenses. We have several people in the OTA installer business who are full members in good standing here because they follow the rules of the forum and they respect that this site is itself a small business. I do not hesitate to recommend them.
All that spammer had to do was write up an advertising contract with Hugh (the smartest thing an OTA shop can do) but no, he had to try the dirty way.
Fundamental Design Flaws seen in almost all Clone antennas
ontherooftop, there is already a huge amount of computer-modeled 4-bay bowtie reflector antennas out there so really it would not be a good use of your time to replicate that work.
Something continues to confuse and irritate me about the various manufacturers of Clone antennas. To make an excellent antenna all any of them need to do is use the best of mclapp's M4 designs with solid, durable materials. Simple!
Unfortunately that has not been happening, so we end up with garbage clone antennas with fundamental design flaws often constructed of flimsy materials. Oh well, I hate to sound like I'm giving them good advice since I don't owe them a living.
If you want to get into computer modeling of antennas start at Post #1 of this thread:
Modeling Software for OTA Antenna Design & Creation
ontherooftop, there is already a huge amount of computer-modeled 4-bay bowtie reflector antennas out there so really it would not be a good use of your time to replicate that work.
Something continues to confuse and irritate me about the various manufacturers of Clone antennas. To make an excellent antenna all any of them need to do is use the best of mclapp's M4 designs with solid, durable materials. Simple!
Unfortunately that has not been happening, so we end up with garbage clone antennas with fundamental design flaws often constructed of flimsy materials. Oh well, I hate to sound like I'm giving them good advice since I don't owe them a living.
If you want to get into computer modeling of antennas start at Post #1 of this thread:
Modeling Software for OTA Antenna Design & Creation
Not ALL clones are total BS.
I have a 4221 clone made by EagleStar (model 53-6305), and it's actually pretty good, locking in all channels. Even weaker WNYO and WNYB. Probably not as strong as a genuine 4221, but it works (at least for me). Of course I wasn't the one who bought the antenna
Recently I've had issues with WGRZ limited to below-zero temps, but in my specific area of Mississauga, I'm in a hole so I'm not the only one experiencing these issues, regardless of antenna.
There are other clones though, which are garbage and I wouldn't touch. I won't mention them here because most of you already know.
Simple logic: If it works, then there's no issue. (Though the EagleStar does have the questionable gain values and marketing that you mention....)
I have a 4221 clone made by EagleStar (model 53-6305), and it's actually pretty good, locking in all channels. Even weaker WNYO and WNYB. Probably not as strong as a genuine 4221, but it works (at least for me). Of course I wasn't the one who bought the antenna
Recently I've had issues with WGRZ limited to below-zero temps, but in my specific area of Mississauga, I'm in a hole so I'm not the only one experiencing these issues, regardless of antenna.
There are other clones though, which are garbage and I wouldn't touch. I won't mention them here because most of you already know.
Simple logic: If it works, then there's no issue. (Though the EagleStar does have the questionable gain values and marketing that you mention....)
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