[mathieuy]

Hi

I am interested in Bell TV. My house have currently RG6 cables everywhere. But I have only one cable per room. The 9241 bell uses 2 cables. Is it possible to pass the signals of two cable in a single cable? I had read somewhere that there was an adapter to do that. Is this possible?

 

[ScaryBob]

This can be done with DPP equipment. Please read the existing Bell Installation threads as this question has been asked and answered many times.

 

[Costa]

Bell isn't using the DPP44 Switch (for now), just the DPP LNB. So you could go with a single cable solution, but only having a DPP LNB limits you to one other receiver. A tech could install two seperate dishes for you aswell.

 

[Pinza]

Or you can buy a DPP44 and the Seperators and do it yourself.

 

[brain]

How about going through one RG59 cable?

Would the signal loss of going through one RG59 cable (as opposed to one RG6 cable) be comparable to the signal loss of going trough two RG59 cables (as opposed to two RG6 cables).

Hopefully my question is clear

Note also that I am currently running my Rogers HD signal through the cable with no issues.

 

[supergenius]

Not trying threadjack but will Bell for sure install a dual tuner using a DPP Lnb? We are moving and I am using a DPP Twin with DPP44 switch currently and if the bell installer will install using a DPP Twin Lnb I won't need to climb on my roof and pull off the lnb. Install will be done in Sarnia, ON if that matters.

 

[Costa]

DPP will burn out the RG59 cable. Sometimes, it's just as easy to run another rg6 from the dish.

Supergenius, as long as the tech has one available.

 

[Pinza]

It is now standard practice to use a DPP LNBF for the installation of a Dual Tuner HD Receiver, so yes he will, unless as costa says, he is out of stock.

I would pull the DPP LNBF off the old Dish if possible, just in case. This way you even have a spare if he does use one.

 

[ScaryBob]

DPP will burn out the RG59 cable.

That's ridiculous. The main reason for using RG6 instead of RG59 is due to signal loss at very high frequencies. DPP uses twice the bandwidth of legacy equipment so everything must work up to the full 2400MHz rating of RG6.

 

[Pinza]

It is sometimes just easier to tell most Installers that it will "burn out" the RG59, that is something they can understand and pass along to a Customer who can also grasp the concept of the cable 'Burning Out".

If you were to tell some Installers the real reason, they would start asking too many Technical questions for Bell to answer (You have dealt with the Bell CSR's, right.?), even Bell TV Managers use this phrase when talking to Installers and advise Techs to repeat this to Customers thus allowing Techs to replace RG59 with new RG6, it is much easier all round than trying to explain the Frequencies etc.

In my opinion, at least 90% of Installers look at this a a job, not as a career, they, again the 90%, will not even know that DPP 'stacks' frequencies in the cable, they just know you can use 1 line to feed a Dual Tuner Receiver.

Do you know how many still try to use 2Ghz Splitters.....lol

 

[mhenaire]

I'm in a similar spot, pre-wired home with only a single RG6 available in the room.

Two questions:

1- Will the 9241 work if I only hook up a single tuner? I don't mind living with one out of two tuners inactive until I figure out a nicer solution.

2- Costa claimed that Bell uses DPP LNBs. Does that mean I could have a DPP LNB already? How do I validate this before assuming I do?

Thanks!
-Mat

 

[Pinza]

If your LNBF looks like this it is a DPP Twin;

If it does, then get a DPP Seperator for behind the 9241 to feed BOTH Tuners, if not I would suggest buying a DPP Twin LNBF and Seperator.

 

[mhenaire]

Great, that's very helpful.

To be sure, in that exact configuration (single 9241 with dual tuner, dish pointing to both 82W and 91W), would I also need a DPP44 switch?

Thanks a million again!
-Mat

 

[Pinza]

No, you would use the LNBF pictured above, run a single RG6 to behind the 9241, attach a DPP Seperator, from which you would feed BOTH Tuners. It really is that simple.

 

[mhenaire]

Well, that made my day. I'm off to find a DPP Twin LNBF.

Thanks again!
-Mat

 

[Pinza]

Don't forget the DPP Seperator........

 

[bmt806]

I have the 9241 receiver but I have not bought the dish yet. I am thinking of grabbing a 20" Dish with Dish Pro Plus LNBF (DPP separator included) off of ebay for about $100 with shipping incl. Just wondering why there are three outputs, as can be seen on the earlier picture of the LNBF. Does that mean you can run an RG-6 cable to three different receivers (and then split it at the receiver)?

 

[Pinza]

There are 2 Outputs and 1 Input.

You can feed 2 x Single Tuner Receivers directly or 2 x Dual Tuner Receivers with the addition of 2 x DPP Seperators.

Any more than that you will need a DPP44 Multiswitch.

If you are going to be a New Customer, why not get Bell to do the Installation.?

 

[bmt806]

what is the input for?

I live in the boonies so there are no installers nearby. Plus, I am a bit of a DIY'er.

 

[Pinza]

Nothing, at the moment. It might be used at some time in the future if Bell ever use another orbital location, then you would be able to install another Dish & LNBF, and run a cable to this Input where it would combine with the signals from 91 & 82, giving all 3 orbital locations down both outputs.