See the ATSC Tuners thread for some info about the new BEV 9200 receiver's OTA performance:ilyo said:With BEV's new receiver coming out, I am interested in adding OTA.
My prescription for your area is a dedicated ATSC tuner like an LG or a Samsung fed from a Channel Master 4228 8-bay UHF antenna. If the CN Tower is basically at the same azimuth as Buffalo from where you are you will not need to mount it on a rotator, but when more and more Canadian stations go DTV you'll be glad you put it on a rotator right from the start. In your case its possible you might also need a preamp to really bring in the Buffalo stations but that's not a given. Check the GTA OTA thread for the listings from Stouffville, Markham, and other areas northwards of Toronto and you should get some good info.ilyo said:Anyone doing it in the Schomberg, Nobleton area? Located at Highway 9 about 20minutes north of TO.
I'm glad you asked him that because I was going to reply to that.Yaamon said:I a little puzzled why with your CM4228 you don't pull in City strong and steady compared the the little crap indoor that Iam currently using ?
If the preamp is in the low power range it should be fine for Buffalo, as long as the main lobe of the CM4228's aperture is away from Toronto. Almost all mention of preamps from GTA folks is about not needing one.intrac said:Would anybody know what effect an amp would have on the Buffalo channels? Would there be overload on the Toronto channels? What would that look like?
My antenna faces 150 degrees to aim towards WNLO/GGRZ, with a null lobe (30 degrees) towards the CN Tower -- so I hope that an amp will not affect me much.stampeder said:If the preamp is in the low power range it should be fine for Buffalo, as long as the main lobe of the CM4228's aperture is away from Toronto. Almost all mention of preamps from GTA folks is about not needing one.
About tuner overload, I've done that with my brand new LG LST-4200A tuner but realized my mistake within a few seconds and yanked the preamp's power plug. The LG is fine but when it was being overdriven on digital the screen image was quite snowy. I had forgotten that I'd left my antenna pointed directly at Mt. Seymour in North Vancouver where CTV-DT broadcasts from. Not good, because I have a Winegard AP8275 preamp on my CM4228 so the gain is about as high as you can buy (its a deep fringe setup for getting SeaTac signals) but the distance is only about 10 km away! Thankfully CTV-DT's ERP is about the same as a flashlight. Sure enough in the LG's manual it says to always connect a new antenna with an inline attenuator just in case of overload, but did I do that? Noooooooooo....
Where I am in N. Toronto (Markham), Buffalo & Toronto are separated by about 30 degrees. So I aim for S.E Buffalo with my CM4228, and get Toronto on a null in the antenna, which gives me plenty of gain, while most of the gain is aimed towards the more distant towers S.E. of Buffalo. The beamwidth of the antenna is sufficient to allow for almost uniform gain for the Grand Island and S.E. stations.Ready123 said:The original poster was in Oakville... so the above Toronto situation may not be relevant as CN Tower & Buffalo will be more aligned than they are in Oakville, where they are around 80 degrees apart!!
And that, my friend, is exactly why we're here! Regarding the Wade SL-4BT you might want to consider the reflector version of it: the 4BT-1483. Anyways we can discuss it in the Outdoor Antennas thread as you need because we're not really supposed to discuss things much in this Reports thread.bete_noir said:Thanks for the info. I mentioned the Wade SL-4BT because a previous poster in this thread recommended it.
By the way, it's great to have a place where we can discuss Canadian signal reception and other issues....