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OTA Results for the Niagara Peninsula in Ontario, including the area from Grimsby east to Niagara-On-The-Lake, down to Fort Erie, westward to Dunnville, and back north to Grimsby. This is an open discussion forum, but keep your posts on topic.
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One of the Live Bandscanners at RabbitEars gets CKVP often from 15 miles away, I'm assuming depending on where their antenna is aimed: RabbitEars Mobile
If that’s the house along Mud Street/Fly Road that I’m thinking of, I’m needing to take a look at that chart: CKVR’s tower in Barrie is pretty high and might just be LOS to it.


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Kick it up to IC and CRTC at this point. The Feds should know how to get them to figure it out for us.
Don't waste your time. The answer you'll get is "they have the authority, but not the obligation to broadcast". They only become the transmitter police if they are doing something outside their license. There is nothing prohibited with broadcasting under power or not at all unfortunately.

You are basically in the same position as wanting a delivery from a restaurant that doesn't offer it or you live outside their delivery area.
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If they are actually broadcasting, the only reason is for the simsub of NFL games.

The ironic part is... I would actually watch CKVP because their PQ is better than WIVB and WUTV.
If they are actually broadcasting, the only reason is for the simsub of NFL games.

The ironic part is... I would actually watch CKVP because their PQ is better than WIVB and WUTV.
Simsub is where you go to CRTC, if they are getting simsub rights in the region but not providing the ota coverage they would be breaking their simsub license agreements. Of course you would need cable TV to know if they even are simsubbing fox/CBS/NBC football games (Bell satellite can do it without the ota simsub rights).
If they are actually broadcasting, the only reason is for the simsub of NFL games.

The ironic part is... I would actually watch CKVP because their PQ is better than WIVB and WUTV.
When our major broadcasters do HD, it’s 1080 end-to-end; down there it’s a lot of 720 downconverted from 1080 (and 4K) with a 360 subchannel for pre-HD content. And with NFL now shooting largely in 4K, we still get more pixels. ATSC3.0 should change things some, and we might be slower to roll it out, but it will still be better PQ up here because we will maintain our end-to-end perspective, whereas they’ll only upgrade to 4x1080 subchannels. It’s just like back in the day when they came over to buy our bigger imperial gallons of gasoline (and speaking of gas, why there’s now ethanol in it). Or our Imperial pints of beer. (It’s also why they basically refuse to go metric...but I digress)


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Years ago it was the US who persuaded Canada to go metric. The US said they were going metric and that Canada should also to facilitate trade with them. Canada switched to metric and the US backed out!
I have faith that they will revisit and reconsider someday...possibly soon. They ARE talking about a reset, and building back better.


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*EDITED at 12:38pm
Still no sign of CKVP or CHCJ. However.... I had a nice little surprise from a few distant channels.
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channel 42-1 is booming in tonight on there rf number 29 maybe they fixed there signal or maybe a freak of nature one of those tropical things
I scanned in CKVP for the first time. They must have fixed it. The signal is good.
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Twist TV is up and running on Rf33 vc2-5 Buffalo, must have happened around noon.
No luck receiving CKVP but a huge improvement with the signal on the north-west side of the region. (I'm probably out of range).
Before the signal strength was ~30%.
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No luck receiving CKVP but a huge improvement with the signal on the north-west side of the region. (I'm probably out of range).
Before the signal strength was ~30%.
Tried again a few hours later. :)
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It's now receivable across the pond also. What's going on?
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