The Channel Master filter also has insertion loss as well, all filters will... but high passes after RF36. If you have a RF36 signal as 'marginal', you realistically won't get it anyway if it's more than 70 Miles away in normal conditions.Yeah I took a pass on it in the end because I have RF36 WIVB/WNLO as marginal and someone in the reviews did a test and posted the actual loss and found that it is significant and it would very very likely kill it for me
I'm confused... why even look at an LTE filter if you are getting incredible results already on a frequency that has issues with LTE? I think it would be a waste of money as you obviously don't have the issues. There's no cell towers in the water.I'd say I get 36 about 50-70% the time despite it being almost 90 miles. Lake Ontario and the high escarpment on the NY side helps a lot
Its quite incredible what I'm able to pull in from Buffalo from this far away
Post a RabbitEars analysis and maybe some on here can analyze it for you. 80-90 miles isn't a reliable distance for most people but it's up to you if you want to try. Maybe a 50ft free standing tower and preamp might help you. Sheer distance alone and the curvature of the Earth is going to make sure you won't get those stations reliably, 95x out of 100. I get a station 75 miles away during Tropo, most nights. But it's not there during the Day - definitely not reliable reception.
Buy the CM Filter if you are looking to not block RF36. Just be aware that these filters also have insertion losses.
Pretty difficult to say what you need without an analysis. Your Hamilton stations could have a 1 or 2 Edge blockage or be almost as long a distance. North York isn't close to Hamilton, nor is it the same direction as Buffalo.
Why are some Buffalo stations 57 Miles away and others 85? Seems like a pretty large spread but looking at the strength of the stations, it seems the signals travel well.Here's my RE plot, not bad I'd say given the distances involved. RabbitEars.Info
It's quite accurate except for:
1) WNLO shows "Poor" but is more like "Fair". Comes in 50-70% of the time
2) CHCJ shows "Fair" but I've never got even a hint of it
3) Star Ray shows "Fair" and likewise, never even a slight detection
The Buffalo stations are around 140-155 degrees and 85-88 miles, and Hamilton is at 209 degrees and 43 miles. My antenna is pointing more squarely at Buffalo.
On the topic of RF36 WNLO, I love these charts RE does - while this analysis shows it as "poor" this Terrain Study shows how I'm completely overcoming the curvature issues you usually see with that kind of distance because the towers are so high up above the lake. The escarpment on both sides is of huge benefit for us lucky Toronto folks, even if the cell interference and tall buildings isn't great. Nice little signal ampitheatre we have
I see. I'm in the Windsor/Detroit market so not privy to the Toronto/Buffalo region. Either way, it seems the Buffalo stations do project well for their distance.because some are in Grand Island, smack in the middle of the Niagara River, and Others are down south in the Boston Hills. RF 5 WNYB is actually down south even further in a completely different county.
To be fair, as mentioned the PBS station is actively trying to throw its signal into Canada from Grand Island, and the Fox affiliate is so massively high powered at 1MW that its almost as strong as a local here despite being slightly directional.I see. I'm in the Windsor/Detroit market so not privy to the Toronto/Buffalo region. Either way, it seems the Buffalo stations do project well for their distance.
It seems Canadians are quite lucky as unlike other markets, a Null doesn't seem to be thrown their way from Buffalo. There are transmitters in Detroit that send most of the signal away from the Canadian side, like RF31 that is transmitting the ATSC 3.0 signals from a shared tower.