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I have sent an email to both. When I do get something back from them, I'll post them here. For now, I'll just watch my high priced ROGERS cable service.... :(
 

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Before I put any effort into researching it I figured it would be best to ask here. Is there any possibility of receiving any HD over the air in Moncton NB?
 

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Before I put any effort into researching it I figured it would be best to ask here. Is there any possibility of receiving any HD over the air in Moncton NB?
Not now. You'd have to wait for local HD transmitters, that is if anyone has any plans to build any in Moncton.
 

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The problem with you guys in NB is that your market is basically run out of Halifax. You're kinda back woods to the back woods. If your market really had local NB stations, then you could look forward to them converting their transmitters to Digital. But as it stands right now, you have a bunch of retransmitters being run out of Halifax.

You can probably expect the SRC station in Moncton to go DTV since it is SRC's flagship station in the Atlantic Provinces, but this is of little use to you if you don't watch french TV.

I really think that the Vermont solution should be applied to the NB market. This solution saw that areas broadcasters all locate their transmitters at one point on Mount Mansfield, VT. And, from there they transmit enough power to cover most of the state, and all the way up to Montreal.

I think the local CBC station in Saint John, and the local SRC station in Monction should place a tower north east of Fredricton, and use hi-VHF channels at about 50kw each to cover the Fredericton, Saint John, Moncton, and all points inbetween market with a single transmitter each. This signal will be able to reach far north of that point, all the way east to the US border as well. This will be a far simplier and quicker way to get DTV to NB than to plan out a conversion of all those retransmitters that may never happen. I also think the CRTC should shutdown the CTV and Global retransmitters operating in NB, since they are basically run out of Halifax. Shut them down, and then open up applications for one or two new privately run stations based in the province. Those stations can follow the CBC & SRC by placing their transmitters at the same spot as I mentioned above, and they will cover their market with only one transmitter. This will allow DTV to enter your market quickly, and also re-establish local TV stations.

But, I don't really see any of this happening unless the residents of NB don't start to make some noise about their media being run out of Halifax. Not that I don't like Halifax. But, NB is not an extention of Halifax. And for that matter, neither is PEI.

It's really up to you guys. Channels 8 & 10 are presently used by the Presque Isle stations. That leaves Channels 7,9,11,12,13 in the hi VHF band. Shut down the retransmiters, and free up those channels for at least 50kw stations to use them. If you don't, then you will be stuck with low powered retransmitters clogging up the airways, and limiting the coverage that can be had for the residents of NB.

You have elected politicians, and you have the CRTC, and Industry Canada you can complain to. Don't let people who own your media run it out of Toronto, or Halifax. You have enough of a population base to justify a local market.

Speak up. Or else you will continue paying high BDU bills, and you will wait even longer than some other Canadian markets to fully see how great DTV, and ATSC reception can be.
 

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I got an answer from WMED TV. They said we might have a chance of picking up their signal after June 12 with a medium sized antenna system. I guess I know what I'll be doing during my summer holidays....
 

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Blackburst: it's not that cut and dry. The thing with the Burlington-Plattsburgh market is that you could still receive each other city's stations over the air.

We already have something like that in NB, with CBC and CTV both having transmitters on Mount Champlain between Saint John and Fredericton. That one transmitter covers both cities. (Global also has a transmitter on the mountain but it's lower power and only covers Saint John well, so there's a separate Fredericton transmitter to serve low-lying parts of that city. Radio-Canada isn't on the mountain at all and also runs 2 separate transmitters.)

Moncton's over 150 km from both cities and the terrain in the middle isn't really conducive to having one mega-transmitter for all 3. They have their own transmitters for all 3 networks.

The only network I can see installing OTA DTV in this province is CBC. The others haven't realized we're not part of Nova Scotia yet. Nice of CTV to take half their "local" newscast the other day to run a debate for an election we can't vote in.
 

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Danster, that is good to hear. My question is how big is a medium sized antenna? I still have the co-ax to the roof peak from *C so whatever I get will be outdoors and roof mounted so big is not really an issue but I am curious as to how big medium is.

On the idea of a consolidated broadcast point, kirjtc2 is correct. The topography of NB is all messed up. I would think that for Moncton and SJ, the best point may be Poley Mountain or in the immediate area as there are several peaks that are at least 350m ASL and little in the way of Moncton or SJ. A well powered transmitter on Crabbe (370m) would cover Freddy, Woodstock, McAdam, Stanley. The north is kinda screwed short of a lot of low powered towers or one bad a$$ tower on Mt Carlton as it is over 600m ASL.

Either way, NB and PEI only have about 800k people so there is little likelihood of a lot of consideration from anyone.
 

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I have to chuckle at that highly technical engineering term: "medium size antenna". ???:D

WMED-DT will be on VHF-HI channel 10 with an ERP of 3500watts, which sounds terribly low but VHF signals carry very well so a high performance antenna & preamp would be best.

You could buy what is called a channel cut antenna or you might consider building one if you are a tinkerer:

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=107697
 

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I know that the terrian of NB is not that great, but what I'm suggesting is using the hi-VHF channels. 30kw - 50kw transmitters can send a signal very far, and can bend around mountains. WMTW-DT in Maine is suppose to go full DT on Channel 8 at 29kw. So, power output like that is not uncommon. It is possible to try and get some sort of central tower point. Placing low-powered DT transmitters all over the place costs money. And uses up much desired hi-VHF channels for nothing. You really need to look at the FCC site to see what US stations are being licensed for KW power output. And you'll see that it is possible. It's the only hope I see in you guys getting Digital TV by the Sept 1, 2011 dealine.
 

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I have no idea what a medium sized antenna is. To me, it's right between a small ang a big antenna....:eek:
 

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OTA in Grand Manan, NB?

Hi folks --

I'm pretty new to all of this so I thought I'd just throw a Q out there: I'm on the Isle of Grand Manan, NB, about 10+ Kms from the coast of Maine, and have the worst reception possible with a set of reg old rabbit-ears. Until recently the best thing we ever got was MPBN (PBS) out of Maine. CTV comes in second best, but spotty. Global = pointless to try and watch, and CBC comes and goes.

Can anyone point me in the right direction to find what I need for better OTA reception? Or hell, any pointers on this whatsoever?

Thanks, great site BTW.

WL
 

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I'm guessing that you don't have a digital TV, and as a result you lost PBS when it switched over back in February, so getting a digital converter box would get it back, if its important to you. Getting a roof top antenna would probably allow you to get the Saint John stations (CTV, CBC, Global) better as well. It doesn't need to be anything expensive necessarily.

I'm by no means an expert on OTA, or what you can and can't get in Grand Manan, but I'd guess that those two things would help you.
 

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No, no digital telly here. As a matter of fact, folks with analogue cable here (no digital cable here, either) lost their PBS feed. When I asked the cable company about this some guy tried to give me some shuck and jive about it having something to do with the VCR hook-up, even after I told him I didn't have one.

There's no cable at all where I live, so I switched on Starchoice until I got sick of paying for it. I can live without PBS -- though I'd still enjoy having it, but more importantly I'd like to have better reception for the Canuck channels. I thought a rooftop antenna might help, but honestly I haven't a clue as what kind of quid to spend on such a thing, and which would be the best for my needs.

Thanks for the input, NB Josh.

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Does Grand Manan have cell coverage yet? Just curious...

It sounds like channels are available in your area--as you get a few with rabbit ears. I would certainly not be shy and ask some neighbours with an antenna on their roof/tower how well they're doing for reception.

I would recommend using TVFOOL.COM to determine what's available, in which direction and on which channels. Channel use and distance is important, as it will dictate which type of antenna (or combination thereof) will work best for your area.

Meanwhile, I'd invest in a digital ATSC receiver (as mentioned) if you're using older non-HD TV's. This will help you with US channels, and with Canadian stations after they go digital within the next 2 years and a bit....
 

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Yep, there's cell service but the coverage is spotty, especially on the southern end of the island. Seems a lot of folk aren't too keen about having a cell tower in their backyard.

I don't see too many antennae up around here. Most are bought and sold on Bell or SC. I assume there's no digital cable here as Bell brought dsl to the island some years back, and there's not enough of a population for the cable company to try and compete.

I've got to look at TVFOOL some more as when I first checked it out I had a lot of hunhs? going around in my head.

Thanks for replying.
 

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You should be able to get WMED-DT 13 (PBS) from Calais, ME in Grand Manan. And depending on where you live, you might even be able to get WVII-DT 7 which is a ABC affiliate in Bangor.

Here is the FCC maps site. Just punch in your address. If it doesn't work. Punch in Grand Manan,NB and once it takes you there, then move the red pointer to where you live on the island.

http://www.fcc.gov/mb/engineering/maps/

You will need a digital to analog converter box so that you can display the digital signals on your analog TV. Those things cost about $75. Make sure you get one with a analogue pass thru indicated on the box. You will need that function for the Canadian stations still transmitting in analogue.

As for an antenna. I really suggest you get an outdoor antenna. Look at the Antennas Direct or Channel Master. There is also a site sponser you might want to check out. The antenna should cost you about $100. Also look at a CM3410, or a CM3412, to connect in your set-up. Both of those items are built by Channel Master as well.

As for the Saint John channels, those are all analogue. So, reception can get tricky with the weather.

Also, by the end of this week (June 12, 2009), The DTV transition for full powered TV channels in the US should be done, so the channels should be all transmitting in their final channel positions by Friday.

As for the point related to people with analoge cable loosing the PBS station in your area, I don't know the spacifics, but it sounds like...when Maine PBS shut down their analogue transmitters in January 2009, then transmitted only in digital...if the local cable company was not set up to (1) receive digital signals, and (2) downconvert those digital signals into analogue and resend it to the subscriber as part of the analogue cable package...that might explain why people lost the PBS station.

Either way, it doesn't really matter, if you decide to proceed with your antenna set-up, you'll see that digital stations offer more than one program on each channel at a time. From zero PBS, you will probably get 2 programs to select from at a time.
WMED-DT will appear as 13.1 and 13.2 on your TV.
 

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Blackburst, thanks ever so much for this info. Should take me a long way in telling the Sat/Cable companies to take a bloody hike.

Cheers.
 
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