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I have two 630's, and a 405, so I needed a Multiswitch. After some comparisons, I bought a Zinwell WB68 off e-Bay. It took a month to get here because of the postal strike, but the total price with shipping to BC was only $25. The unit is small enough that it ships in just a padded envelope. It was obviously used, but appeared in good shape physically. Installed today and it's working perfectly! I measured the signal strength & EBNO, before and after installation; the results were exactly the same, across the board. So far, I'm happy.

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I'm a new subscriber to Shaw Direct, and the install is coming up in a couple weeks. I've ordered one 630 and 3 600's. As a result of needing 5 lines in, they have already shipped a 4x8 multiswitch for free.

I read through this thread and I think I understand, but am hoping someone can just comfirm for me:
1) In order for multiswitch to work all 4 outputs from LNB have to be connected? I can't just put 3 in to create 6 out, and then use the final out from LNB on it's own?
2) Does multiswith need to be plugged in to work? Dumb question probably but just curious.

Reason I'm asking - Long story, but basically the way my house is wired, and where I'm locating my PVR, it's best to have one line on it's own into the house, and then 3 lines in another location into the house, with the multiswitch inside plugged in.

Is it possible to forget the 4x8 multiswitch, and just have a 1x2 switch on one of the lines? Is there even such a thing as a 1x2 switch??
 

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What you have, is a switch that will connect 4 inputs (from your dish LNB's) to distribute across 8 potential receivers.

The 4 inputs will connect to your two LNB's at the dish end as each LNB has two outputs... one for horizontal polarization and one for vertical polarization.

Yes, you will need power as this is not a passive device pulling power from a connected receiver.
 

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Thanks for that.

What about a 1x2 multiswitch? Is there such a thing that will work with shaw direct for just the one line?

If I understand you correctly I'm thinking not. also just to clarify then, if I eliminate the switch can I have 4 independant lines off the LNB (ie 4 receivers or 2 PVRs as example)? The way you describe it, it almost sounds like without a multiswitch I could only have 2 receivers independant of each other......but I might be reading you wrong.
 

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No. There really is no such thing as a 1x2 switch. In a case like this, providing it is a circularly polarized LNB or a horizontal/vertical polarization LNB, you would plug each of the two receivers into one of the two outputs on the LNB. The voltage output of the receiver will determine the polarization of the signal the LNB will pass on to the receiver. This works fine for a single LNB dish system.

The reason you need a switch for more than two receivers and more than one LNB, is the electronics in the switch, relay the appropriate LNB signal to the appropriate receiver. Say one receiver wants a horizontally polarized signal from LNB A and a second receiver wants a vertically polarized signal from LNB B and a third receiver wants a vertically polarized signal from LNB A and so on... the switch sees the voltages and the lnb tone or digital tracing signal and routes the appropriate signal to the appropriate receiver accordingly.

The 4x8 switch allows two different LNB on a single dish to communicate with up to 8 receivers, independent of each other.
 

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Thanks. I get now that I need to have all 4 lines going into the 4x8 multiswitch in order for it to work. I also get now, that there is no such thing as a 1x2 switch.

but I still think you are saying that a switch of some kind is needed even I just want to run say 1 PVR and 2 non-PVR's. I don't think this is true (did I mention that I will have a Quad LNB - 4 lines out). I think I can run 1 PVR and 2 non-PVR's without the use of a switch. It's just cause I'm trying to run 1 PVR and 3 non-PVR's that I need the switch.

Can someone confirm I don't need a switch if I'm running 1 PVR and only 2 non-PVR's?
 

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If you wanted to remove one of your 600s, then you could do away with the mutil-switch. The four lines from the LNB would go directly to the receivers (2 for the 630 and 1 each for the 2 600s)

Bite the bullet. Get the muti-switch installed inside (basement) somewhere.

Now, you could still run the wiring you were hoping for. Run all 4 lines into the switch. The one that you wanted off on its own, just run an output from the switch back outside again and around to the side of the house you want then back inside again to your receiver. I did something similar to take advantage of a pre-existing install. You can run these lines quite a distance before you notice signal drop.
 

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If you wanted to remove one of your 600s, then you could do away with the mutil-switch. The four lines from the LNB would go directly to the receivers (2 for the 630 and 1 each for the 2 600s)

Bite the bullet. Get the muti-switch installed inside (basement) somewhere.

Now, you could still run the wiring you were hoping for. Run all 4 lines into the switch. The one that you wanted off on its own, just run an output from the switch back outside again and around to the side of the house you want then back inside again to your receiver. I did something similar to take advantage of a pre-existing install. You can run these lines quite a distance before you notice signal drop.
hmm, good call. That's exactly what I'll have to do to make it work, thanks! I already have the mutiswitch..they gave it to me for free.
 

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Just got a 630 installed today

Aready had 4 lines coming into house for 4 TV's
Tech had to install Multiswitch in order to get another line.

Was not home at the time (wife was)

So when I got back saw that he installed the switch right below the Soffit under the roof. (guess he had no chioce) reading here he needed the 4 lines for the multiswitch as all the lines go diffrent ways once they run Dwn the house.


Funny thing is how he powered the Multiswitch
he took another Coax cable from the switch and passed it inside
were it ends up connected to a power adapter never knew this could be done)


needless to say looks clean up under Soffit
cables are tucked clean as he could.
and everything seems set up Great


Question: As long as switch is Dry I should have no Issues ?



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once your multi is installed, you now have 8 lines so you could technically run 4 pvrs record 7 programs and watch an 8th. clear enuff?
 

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i use 1/4 inch and 3/8 shrink tube on my multis when installin outside for added protction first install the 14 on the line and move out of the way then install the 3/8th and screw terminations to switch then shrink, when shrunk slide the 1/4 in ch over that to ensure 100% weather resistance.
 

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Xku lnbf install fix

if someone can tell me how to post a winrar flash drive link i have, I have received a program from shaw direct for installing this to receivers with a USB port. no more 10 -15 minute waits and corruptions.or visit G.Dubois installs on facebook and i will try to have it posted there.somehow. or leave an e-mail address there and i will mail it to you. takes no time whatsoever just read the readm me txt.
 

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need more than 8 out

I have need of more than 8 out (I am planning 5 receivers in my new house, each requiring two lines in).

I currently own/use a 4x8 multi-switch provided by Shaw Direct (StarChoice) a number of years ago.

Is it possible to add a second 4x8 into the first (by using 4 lines out of the first switch and putting them into the 4 in on the second, thus creating a total of 12 out)?

I have tried to purchase a 4x16 - but the company I am dealing with is... uh, not as reputable as I would like (I just checked it out with the BBB and it has an 'F' for an evaluation :eek: ).

Thanks for any advice!
 

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This will work fine...

I have need of more than 8 out (I am planning 5 receivers in my new house, each requiring two lines in).

I currently own/use a 4x8 multi-switch provided by Shaw Direct (StarChoice) a number of years ago.

Is it possible to add a second 4x8 into the first (by using 4 lines out of the first switch and putting them into the 4 in on the second, thus creating a total of 12 out)?

I have tried to purchase a 4x16 - but the company I am dealing with is... uh, not as reputable as I would like (I just checked it out with the BBB and it has an 'F' for an evaluation :eek: ).

Thanks for any advice!
No you cannot cascade multiswitches in the manner you describe. But there is a simple emthod and it's far cheaper to do it this way than a 4X16 unit. You need 2 multiswitches, and 4 two way, one port power passing high frequency splitters as per the picture below. (They don't have to be Eagle Aspen.)



I'd pull all 4 feeds from your Quad LNB inside the house, and mount all the devices on a piece of plywood. Then feed the output of the Multiswitches to any 16 Tuners / Recievers; or 8 PVR types.

The picture shows 5X8 multiswitches (the 5th input is for a regular antenna or RF input like High Speed Cable you want to multiplex onto the same cable system. You also don't need the Diplexer shown on the output of the left multiswitch before thr reciever => it's used to peel off the multiplexed signal connected on the 5th input on the 5X8 multiswitch).

But the rest of the wiring is the same for 4X8 multiswitches. Just make sure the "legs" are the same going into each multiswitch from each high frequency splitter (the 13V, 18V, 13V with 22KHz, and 18 with 22KHz). All Multiswitches are labled so it's pretty simple.

I hope this is helpful. :cool:
 

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BRILLIANT!

Thanks for the best reply I've ever received in a forum question! Anywhere! :)

I have already run all wires into the utility room to be mounted on plywood near my electrical panel, so this installation should look very good!

Thanks again for the advice!

(If you have an outlet that you trust (especially if it's in Calgary), I would appreciate a PM. )
 

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Multiswitch with Stacked LNBs

Does anyone have any experience with using a multiswitch with a stacked 75 dish with satellite A + B in and a 4 lines out starchoice switch. Can I run the 4 lines out into an Eagle Aspen DTV 4x8 Multiswitch and have it work or will I have to change to a Quad 4 LNB?
 
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