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LNBF - Multiswitch question

Hello All,

Scoured the net for days now and can't find the answer I'm looking for. Hoping you guys can help. My *C service is currently set up for stacked(2 beer can lnbf) my question is: Would I have to change the service from stacked to non stacked (call *C and ask them to change it) to use a quad lnbf with a multiswitch or does the multiswitch do the conversion to stacked for you?

Hope that makes sense. It does in my head :)

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Want to clarify my upgrade path here. I currently have a 630 and a 505. I'd like to add another 630 while keep the others. SO...I'm lacking 1 output from my LNB. The LNB I have is a dual side by side with 4 outputs.

So to add the new 630 I'll need the receiver and a 4/8 multiplexer correct? What's the usual cost on the multiplexer?
 

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yes you'll need a 4x8 multiswitch, the switches $85-$99 call shaw direct they may throw in a free multiswitch and instalation with the purchase of your 630.
 

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I just noticed on the spec sheets for the two 4x8 multiswitches Shaw carries, that the frequency range on the "indoor" switch is far greater than the "outdoor" switch. Would this have any effect? What frequencies do the quad LNB's output? See links below for spec sheets.

Thanks.

Frequency range: 950-1450MHz
https://secure.shawdirect.ca/english/store/download/4X8_multiswitch_spec_sheet.pdf

Frequency range: 950-2200Mhz
https://secure.shawdirect.ca/english/store/download/5X8_multiswitch_spec_sheet.pdf
 

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Get the second one, there are a few issues with the first one. I have the second one and it has been flawless. Buy it on ebay or online somewhere else, it is a lot less expensive than through Shaw Direct, or better yet see if they will throw it in for free as mentioned.
 

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If you are looking for a deal try this:

I bought the Philips SDW5058 Satellite Multiswitch primarily because it was 5X8 and outdoor rated. Whereas the Eagle Aspen version was indoor rated only. It comes with the typical isolated (ungrounded) wall wort type AC power supply. I went to Princess Auto and bought the Phillips SWD5058/17 5X8 Multiswitch off the shelf. You don't need to use the "5th" input (It's for an over the air antenna or Cable).

It was listed for $39.99 but with a sale sticker for $36.01. I noticed when I got outside, the net after tax was $35.85 so I checked the bill, and it scanned in at $32.01 plus taxes. The cashier said I could return it if I didn’t like it anytime as long as it’s not worn...(Sounds better than Costco -and a lot cheaper than SD!)

So if you are close to a Princess Auto...
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QCK, what issues does the first one have? I really need an outdoor rated one so the second one will not work,

Jimsathome, I'm about an hour and half away from a Princess Auto. I tried searching their website but didn't find any multiswitches. Do you know anywhere online I can order it in Canada?

Thanks guys!
 

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I'm not sure honestly but the installer I had said there were issues with them. If you are putting the switch outside you are better off to use this switch which uses no extrenal power. I use this one for my HAFH and it does not cost much: Zinwell WB68
 

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I thought that the multiswitch needed to be powered for anything beyond 4 outputs due to signal loss. Or am I mistaken?

The Zinwell WB68 looks like it would be ideal though, and would solve the problem of having to run power to it as well. Are there any known issues with this multiswitch?

Any idea where I can order/get one from? I'm in a pretty small town, so ordering online would be the route I'm looking for.

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No, this switch works just fine without the added power supply. And my cable runs are about 150 ft as well.

Just do a search and you will find places to buy it. E bay would be the cheapest, or a place like solid signal should have them as well. Just get it delivered to your place.
 

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I checked Ebay and Solid Signal. All of the ones on Ebay are from the states (same with Solid Signal), so I'll probably wait until the whole post office strike is settled before ordering. I really don't want to use UPS or Fedex for something from the US because of the crazy brokerage fees.

I'm also going to need a new LNB I think. I currently have a dual-stacked 75cm dish, but I think the LNB might be for a 60cm dish. I had one of the outputs on the original LNB go a few years ago and the install guy said he had a spare one he could install. I never mentioned it was a 75cm dish (since I thought the LNB's were the same at the time) and he never mentioned anything when installing it, so I'm thinking he put a 60cm LNB up there since my signal never goes above 60 (it was originally about 85 when the dish was first installed). I'll have to get a ladder to check though.

Would Shaw provide a LNB replacement for free?
 

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Yes, call Shaw Direct and tell them your issue. They should do a free replacement and dish setup. Make very sure they understand you need a 75e LNB quad head so the tech has it with him when he comes.
 

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QCK, what issues does the first one have? I really need an outdoor rated one so the second one will not work,

Jimsathome, I'm about an hour and half away from a Princess Auto. I tried searching their website but didn't find any multiswitches. Do you know anywhere online I can order it in Canada?

Thanks guys!
I figure you must be near the new Kamloops Princess Auto. Regardless just call them and ask if they've got one in stock.

You can read all about our Cabin install near Kamloops with the Phillips Multiswitch here:

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=125300

As far as the discussion about powered or not, I did a lot of reasearch before concluding a powered unit provides a small amount of boost (~1.5 dB if I remember correctly to overcome insertion losses) while some unpowered units can actually degrade the signal strength.

If you plan to have the dish reasonably close to the switch, and your runs to the recievers relatively close as well, an unpowered unit maybe a good solution for you. I mounted the Box you see in the photo during reconstruction, and we have a wall plug less than a foot away on the inside wall. But powering is not a big deal as you can connect a piece of RG6 and run it as far as you need.

If you are going outside with your switch, I'd put it inside a weather proof Box. The photo you see was just a temporary mount. I'm going to post a more complete photo as I reworked the connections and made the cables tidy.
 

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As far as the discussion about powered or not, I did a lot of reasearch before concluding a powered unit provides a small amount of boost (~1.5 dB if I remember correctly to overcome insertion losses) while some unpowered units can actually degrade the signal strength.

If you plan to have the dish reasonably close to the switch, and your runs to the recievers relatively close as well, an unpowered unit maybe a good solution for you.
Just FYI, I have two locations, one with a power switch and one without. The one without is using the WB68 switch with runs of over 150 feet. I did signal strength checks with the reciever right next to the dish and not using a switch for alginment, and compared that to the switch in place and the strength level was exactly the same. You can research all you want, but actually setting it up and seeing for yourself is the best way to see true results for your own setup. Another concern of mine was channel change speeds, and they were the same both ways as well. So there is no reason not to use the WB68 switch from my experience.
 

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I bit the bullet and ordered a WB68 off of Ebay a couple days ago, it's about $30 including the shipping.

I figured since the post office strike is just rotating right now, I should be pretty safe.

I'm planning to mount it under the sundeck (which is directly below the dish), so it should be dry as a bone there.

Thanks for the help everyone.
 

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I bit the bullet and ordered a WB68 off of Ebay a couple days ago, it's about $30 including the shipping.

I figured since the post office strike is just rotating right now, I should be pretty safe.

I'm planning to mount it under the sundeck (which is directly below the dish), so it should be dry as a bone there.

Thanks for the help everyone.
Please come back and advise how this switch works for you.
 

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I just checked the Princess Auto in SE Calgary. They have a 3x4 (3-in-4-out) multiswitch, but none of the 4X8, which is what we need for *C. Also, the Multiswitches they had were in the aisle marked "Surplus", so who knows it they will ever get any more stock.
 
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