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Well it looks like they're still offering the same types of plans on the new network (including unlimited data), but man, 3 blackberry phones and 2 horrid nokias? They really couldn't get a decent Android phone for launch? Sigh.
They are pretty much encouraging people to bring unlocked phones from other carriers (especially Rogers) to the stores for the switch. I've got an AT&T HTC Aria on order just for that purpose. Should be here at the end of the week.
 

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Went to connect store the other day, ready to get a smartphone and new plan but just shook my head at the garbage 4g handsets.

Why roll our a new network at all if this is the best you can do? 2 older blackberrys and a terrible new one (the Torch is horrid and Torch 2 already on the horizon). Was hoping to see some Android there...would love a Nexus S. Judging from the response of the guy at the store he's hearing this kind of complaint alot.
 

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I agree that MTS should have a better selection of phones. I thought they would have the iPhone on day 1. Still, it's hard to complain that they're not selling the Torch 2 when it's "on the horizon".
 

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I'm not complaining about that per se...more that you go in and are bombarded with WE HAVE 4G !!!!!, then you ask to see the 4 G phones. I was underwhelmed. I'd like to stay with MTS, have been with their wireless for 10 years but it's getting harder to do when you see the selection of phones across the street with other providers.

The Torch I just used as en example, it's not a very good phone, for a number of reasons, being dreadfully slow is one of them.
 

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I purchased an unlocked phone on eBay because of the poor selection available in store. Mind you, I might not end up activating it with MTS now... but there you go.
 

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Am trying a Rogers MC950D USB stick in the Morris area. Not getting very good bandwidth, maybe 7Kb/s. I was hoping to replace the MTS dialup account but it seems to be faster than this. Rogers says this USB modem is capable of 7.2Mb/s and certainly not getting that here. Signal is about half way up on the gui scale and Rogers tower is about 2 miles away. Maybe I am too far from the tower?
MTS only has dial up here.
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MTS has the Novatel Wireless Ovation MC998D (4G HSPA+). Here area some specs related to reception.

  • Data speeds of up to 21 Mbps Download and 5.76 Mbps Upload
  • MobiLink™ 3 Connection Manager software for Windows and Mac
  • 2 x 2 MIMO (multiple input multiple output)- to enable maximization of data throughput and operating range.
  • Receiver Equalization - improves performance in noisy & highly mobile environments
  • Receiver Diversity - improves performance at cell edges and in buildings
It might be worth trying provided that you can return it and cancel the plan with no penalty if the throughput isn't acceptable. Be sure you follow whatever limits are specified in terms of days of use or data transfer if you plan to cancel.
 

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Dr Dave,
I asked at the local MTS store and they didn't have anything available. I took that to mean they don't offer high speed wireless. I know anyone with Iphones or blackberrys are not getting g3 or g4 service here either. I still have a dialup account maybe next time I am in the city I can pick something up to try.

I am starting to think I will have to take out an MTS DSL account in the nearest town (Morris) and WIFI it out to my location (about 5 miles or so). Would likely require two grid antennas and transceivers... Ubiquity makes some products that might work... Seems way too much trouble for internet service.

Another option is 2-way satellite but it seems to be even more trouble and very expensive... I see packages starting at $90/mo and install fees in the $2000 range!

You urban dwellers are very fortunate to have multiple providers in various modes delivering cheap and high bandwidth service. Out here in rural Manitoba we are still in the (internet) dark ages!

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@Cham, according to the MTS info that I posted in post 2:
HSPA+ will provide improved coverage over CDMA in Morris, La Salle, Beausejour, Niverville, and Teulon.
All of the info about Morris and the MC998D is from the MTS web site. If I was in your situation, I would follow up with the Morris MTS store and ask for the specific device advertised on their web site. They should be able to order it if they don't have it in stock in Morris . You may ask to deal with someone more senior at the store, since some of the staff would just be trained in the standard offerings. You may still prefer to deal with a Winnipeg store if it's not too inconvenient since you are more likely to find someone that is familiar with the product.

Just be sure you can cancel if the product doesn't perform adequately at your location. Also be aware the the 21 Mbps download speed is a theoretical maximum and won't be achieved in real-world use.
 

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Sorry, this thread has been dead for a while, but I just wanted to get some input and share some ideas.

I upgraded from an MTS CDMA phone to a "4G" blackberry curve 9300 a couple weeks ago. It's my first BB, and I thought I would like the qwerty keyboard better than the touch screen of the iphone (which I couldn't afford anyway). I have an ipod touch, so I know what they are like, and I wanted something that was more phone than gadget.

I considered going to another provider, except my contract hadn't expired, and I got impatient, so I just renewed it instead.

I'm just barely satisfied with this phone. It does the job, but it's quirky and cumbersome. I don't want to get into it, as this probably isn't in the right thread for that.

What I did want to talk about with regards to the network are reception and possible features in the future.

I've found the area that I live in to have weak to no signal, causing dropped calls and/or no service. So what I'd like to know is if this is because the new hspa network is in its infancy and not fully implemented or something. Or is it the handset? I loved my CDMA handset! I rarely had these issues.

With that being said, I see that another provider has a feature called Wifi calling (technical term is UMA, I think). I don't believe MTS offers this, but it would be a great feature. Anyone know if they might get it?

Mods, please feel free to move this if it's not the right thread.

Thanks! :)
 

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I would personally assume it's the handset. When MTS fired up their new network, it was based on their original network coverage PLUS rogers network coverage (they share towers in Manitoba)

Plus I hate blackberrys.
 

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According to their website:

4G will not be available in Bissett, Churchill, Middlebro, Split Lake, Oxford House, Snow Lake, Ebb & Flow, Fisher River / Koostatak, Long Spruce, Radisson, Henday, and Wuskwatim.

Although if Rogers ever operates 3G in Churchill, theoretically you could roam on that.
 

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@Reed Solomon, I don't think Rogers has built any towers in Manitoba since the agreement on page 1 of this thread.

@kidnash84, the quote above was part of the original announcement so your best bet would probably be to contact MTS to see if they have any new plans for Churchill.
 

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I wonder if and when MTS is ever going to upgrade these areas as noted from there coverage page? I would have thought that Churchill with the Eco Tourism would have been on the upgrade path.

Some locations will have CDMA coverage and 4G will not be available. The locations are as follows:

Middleboro
Churchill
Split Lake
Oxford House
Snow Lake
Bissett
Fisher River / Kooostatak
Ebb & Flow
Long Spruce
Henday
Radisson (North of Gillam)
Wuskwatim Dam (Hydro Site)
 

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CDMA is essentially dead, and not just in Manitoba, with almost no new handsets coming out. I think long term MTS has few choices but to upgrade to HSP/LTE at these sites. It might be a matter of things like cost and access that has been preventing them.
 

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MTS to launch faster 4G HSPA+ network in six new communities

MTS today announced plans to expand its 4G HSPA+ wireless network to six new rural Manitoba communities in 2014, including the town of Churchill. More than 4,000 people living and working in the following communities will benefit from this investment:
  • Ebb and Flow First Nation
  • Fisher River First Nation
  • Churchill
  • Snow Lake
  • Bissett
  • Middlebro
News Release.
 

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Under CDMA there is a gap in coverage between Steinbach and Middlebro just outside of Piney on Hwy 12 north. Looks like the tower at Vita does not reach that area either.

When they add 4G HSPA+ will it be strong enough to fill that gap or does MTS or Rogers still have to build another tower in the future to give that coverage.
 

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As this seems like a conversion/replacement of the old CDMA gear with HSPA gear the coverage is likely very similar. If the service expansion included LTE then there might be hope as that would be adding additional frequencies.
 

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CoryB, HSPA isn't necessarily a replacement for CDMA. The 2 networks will coexist, just as they do in the rest of Manitoba.

I don't know if they will just mount the HSPA+ gear on the same towers as the CDMA or if they have to do a lot of re-engineering to get adequate coverage.
 
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