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I would rather buy the PVR for $500 then have to spend 8 extra dollars a month just to use the PVR features. Why is MTS charging for there PVR service and why is there not an option to buy the PVR?
Simplest explaination is because the PVR is a network service provided by MTS. Not just a hard drive in a box like Shaw. Even if you purchased the VIP1216 (which may be possible in the future), it still costs MTS to manage the PVR service on it for you.

This might explain the PVR better:
http://www.att.com/Common/totalhomedvr/total-home-dvr.html

While the "total home dvr" as ATT calls it isn't available on MTS, it's expected to be in the future.

Owning it also creates a number of legal problems as well that would need to be worked through (everything from purchase, inventory and repair, to signing VoD contracts with big picture companies who want to ensure there is a full DRM solution end-to-end).
 

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Mixar I just wanted to point out that your parents will not have to pay more, only if they want hd. If not, nothing changes. Btw, those prices also include MC. Basic and 9 themes is like $55, which is slightly cheaper than Shaw with digital.
 

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KingBuzzo, here's what I have seen so far. I've been following AT&T U-Verse for awhile since they use the Mediaroom software.

Can mediaroom integrate with media center?
Not at the present time. However I've read the the 2 groups will be working together so there's hope for the future.

What kind of connectivity/portability options for content is available with this system?
Mediaroom supports Whole Home PVR where you can watch a recorded show from any STB in the home. From other posts it sounds like MTS will not be offering this in the initial rollout in Portage, but will likely offer it later. If you are talking about making a digital copy to a PC that's not possible due to encryption. If that's important you could use the Hauppauge HD-PVR as discussed elsewhere on this forum.

Can you add storage?
No, but I've read that AT&T is now using 250GB and 320GB units, so MTS may also do so in the future.

Is is possible to display content/media from other sources in the home (pc...etc)?
According to the Mediaroom website "Microsoft Mediaroom connects your TV to your PC and other entertainment devices, giving you instant access to all your personal media so you can easily stream music, or share photos and videos with friends and family, on the best screen in the house." I don't know if or when MTS will implement that feature. It sounds like a nice feature for the techies among us, but I imagine the typical user would be a giant support headache.
 

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now I recently switched to MTS through a winback offer, I want to clarify a few pricing things. i'm interested in moving to the IPTV more for the better internet speeds than anything else.

So I currently have 3 TVs in the house, now currently the RG delivers video diretly to one tv, and to the other two via coax.

Now if I were to switch to IPTV from my understanding I would get the RG included, but the other two TVs would require a seprerate setbox even I don't want to get HD correct? So would I need 3 setboxes (for an additional $9/mo, or would I just need 2 addition for $6/mo.
 

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Daemos, MTS TV customers in Winnipeg can get Lightning Internet at 5 Mbps and Lightning Plus at 9 Mbps download. Both are 2 Mbps upload. Have you heard about something faster?

The old MTS TV RG takes 3 digital streams and converts them to analog to transport via your in-house coax. The new MTS IPTV is all-digital and requires a set top box (STB) for each TV (even if the TV is analog). Winnipeg customers won't have to change unless they want to.

My understanding is that MTS will charge for each STB including the first one. The first STB is a VIP1216 which is a PVR, but MTS will charge $5/month extra to use the PVR service. The interesting thing for me is that the PVR can be viewed from any STB in the home (although this feature isn't supported in the initial roll out).
 

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Daemos, MTS TV customers in Winnipeg can get Lightning Internet at 5 Mbps and Lightning Plus at 9 Mbps download. Both are 2 Mbps upload.
That's news to me! My upload is roughly 0.8 megabits and download is 2 to 2.2 megabits on the Lightning Plan with MTS TV.

My internet speed has stayed constant over the past 3 1/2 years, even through a move.
 

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umbrau44, it could depend on your source. If you're talking about torrents that may be the case. I routinely see 500 megabytes/sec on Lightning downloading commercial software updates or video podcasts. The best I've seen is around 625-650 downloading Win7 with their download manager which uses multiple streams.

This is quite far off topic so we should continue it in the Internet forum if you wish.
 

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Daemos, MTS TV customers in Winnipeg can get Lightning Internet at 5 Mbps and Lightning Plus at 9 Mbps download. Both are 2 Mbps upload. Have you heard about something faster?

The old MTS TV RG takes 3 digital streams and converts them to analog to transport via your in-house coax. The new MTS IPTV is all-digital and requires a set top box (STB) for each TV (even if the TV is analog). Winnipeg customers won't have to change unless they want to.

My understanding is that MTS will charge for each STB including the first one. The first STB is a VIP1216 which is a PVR, but MTS will charge $5/month extra to use the PVR service. The interesting thing for me is that the PVR can be viewed from any STB in the home (although this feature isn't supported in the initial roll out).
Currently not getting those speeds...seems to be line related though.

Shaw will be moving to 7.5 mbit/1mbit for regular high speed and 15mbit/1mbit for Xtreme I as well as opening up 30mbit/1mbit for yet a higher tier (this one could be wiped out though) and a 100mbit/5mbit tier.

From my understsanding the new IPTV will run off a VDSL2...providing much faster speeds for internet. Not to mention it also goes back to DHCP vs PPPOE =) I could be wrong though.
 

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thanks for the clarification...

it sounds like it will be awhile before they have something compelling over media center but at least they have something!

i'm very interested in seeing the interface...
 

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Daemos, I was asking if you'd heard of MTS doing anything faster with IPTV or if you were just assuming that since they were going with VDSL2 that they would allocate more bandwidth for Internet. I know AT&T is offering up to 18 Mbps with their TV service.

My only concern is that if MTS starts going to higher speeds, they'll introduce monthly caps like Shaw. I'd rather have unlimited Internet at whatever speed I pay for without having to keep track of how much I use each month.
 

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Dr. Dave: It would be wise for MTS to increase speeds, but not set any bandwidth caps. From what i've been told the boxes they are getting are VDSL2 RGs (I don't work for MTS, but I do have sources). MTS needs to be able to compete with shaw not only in pricing but in service as well.

http://www.2wire.com/index.php?p=106 Model 3800HGV is the box MTS has from what I've been told.
 

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Tangent!

umbrau44, it could depend on your source. If you're talking about torrents that may be the case. I routinely see 500 megabytes/sec on Lightning downloading commercial software updates or video podcasts. The best I've seen is around 625-650 downloading Win7 with their download manager which uses multiple streams.

This is quite far off topic so we should continue it in the Internet forum if you wish.
I just started a new thread, any input is welcome. http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/showthread.php?t=101086
 

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So if MTS charges rental for every STB in the home for every T.V it becomes an expensive proposition. I understand the first one such as the HD/PVR, but everyone...I hope they will be competitive in the end. If they are they will succeed if not they will fail, it all comes down to pricing and having enough HD channels and a proper east/west feeds.
I have my doubts they will listen to the good advice of the customers over at MTS....we will see, interesting times are a coming to Manitoba in the HD T.V ....
 

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So if MTS charges rental for every STB in the home for every T.V it becomes an expensive proposition. I understand the first one such as the HD/PVR, but everyone...I hope they will be competitive in the end. If they are they will succeed if not they will fail, it all comes down to pricing and having enough HD channels and a proper east/west feeds.
I have my doubts they will listen to the good advice of the customers over at MTS....we will see, interesting times are a coming to Manitoba in the HD T.V ....
Yah, I know and they will also charge for the basic HD channels that every other provider offers for free. It will be interesting to see how many people sign up for it. I probally won't be I can't afford to spend any more than I am now. Too bad the HD age is expesnive. Guess I will just still to Standard def for the time being.
 
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