Motion "Judder" on C7000 vs 54g20 or VT25
I have done a fair bit of research on the 3 plasmas I am considering:
The Samsung PN50C7000, Panasonic 54G20, and Panasonic VT25.
3D is not a factor, but I have read the Picture quality on all 3 is great, and the colors etc are reasonable on all 3 (rising black not being an issue, as discussed in several places).
What I am particularily concerned about is a review by plasmatvbuyingguide citing unacceptable (picky?) motion judder on the pannys vs the Samsung. All other factors being great etc.
Motion judder is about the only thing that would wreck my viewing experience, as I am less concerned on color saturation as long as it's decent etc.
I have included their comments below in italics:
Posted Samsung C7000 Points:
With 480i Input
Jaggies 1: Good
Jaggies 2: Good to Average
Jaggies Flag Motion Test: Excellent
Film Detail Test Race Car/Stadium Seating: Good. Moire' pattern not pronounced and disappears in a second. Smooth motion from race car.
Film based Pulldown Cadence tests (applicable to DVDs)
Cadence 2-2 30fps: Excellent
Cadence 3-2 24fps: Excellent
Cadence 2-2-2-4: Very Good
Cadence 2-3-3-2: Good
Mixed 3:2 Film with Added Video Titles: Very Good
With 1080p Input
Jaggies 1: Very Good
Jaggies 2: Good
Video Resolution Loss Test: Very Good. There was barely a flicker in top right box.
Film Resolution Loss Test: Average to Good
HD Background: Very Good to Excellent
Stadium Seating Test with Moire: Very Good. Smooth panning. Just a slight moire' in top seating sections.
Posted Panasonic VT25 Points:
With 480i Input
Jaggies 1: Good to Average
Jaggies 2: Average
Jaggies Flag Motion Test: Average
Film Detail Test Race Car/Stadium Seating: TV clears moire' pattern in 2 seconds but bad judder effects from moving race car. Poor result.
Film based Pulldown Cadence tests (applicable to DVDs)
Cadence 2-2 30fps: Average
Cadence 3-2 24fps: Good
Cadence 2-2-2-4: Poor to Average
Cadence 2-3-3-2: Poor to Average
Mixed 3:2 Film with Added Video Titles: Good
With 1080p Input
Jaggies 1: Good
Jaggies 2: Good
Video Resolution Loss Test: Very Good. Top right box with flicker
Film Resolution Loss Test: Average to Good
HD Background: Average Some Flicker
Stadium Seating Test with Moire: Little moire' in top seating. Visible Judder during side to side panning. Average.
Any opinions on this? I would be dealing mostly with HD Satellite or DVD/BR DVD as sources.
The Samsung PN50C7000, Panasonic 54G20, and Panasonic VT25.
3D is not a factor, but I have read the Picture quality on all 3 is great, and the colors etc are reasonable on all 3 (rising black not being an issue, as discussed in several places).
What I am particularily concerned about is a review by plasmatvbuyingguide citing unacceptable (picky?) motion judder on the pannys vs the Samsung. All other factors being great etc.
Motion judder is about the only thing that would wreck my viewing experience, as I am less concerned on color saturation as long as it's decent etc.
I have included their comments below in italics:
Posted Samsung C7000 Points:
With 480i Input
Jaggies 1: Good
Jaggies 2: Good to Average
Jaggies Flag Motion Test: Excellent
Film Detail Test Race Car/Stadium Seating: Good. Moire' pattern not pronounced and disappears in a second. Smooth motion from race car.
Film based Pulldown Cadence tests (applicable to DVDs)
Cadence 2-2 30fps: Excellent
Cadence 3-2 24fps: Excellent
Cadence 2-2-2-4: Very Good
Cadence 2-3-3-2: Good
Mixed 3:2 Film with Added Video Titles: Very Good
With 1080p Input
Jaggies 1: Very Good
Jaggies 2: Good
Video Resolution Loss Test: Very Good. There was barely a flicker in top right box.
Film Resolution Loss Test: Average to Good
HD Background: Very Good to Excellent
Stadium Seating Test with Moire: Very Good. Smooth panning. Just a slight moire' in top seating sections.
Posted Panasonic VT25 Points:
With 480i Input
Jaggies 1: Good to Average
Jaggies 2: Average
Jaggies Flag Motion Test: Average
Film Detail Test Race Car/Stadium Seating: TV clears moire' pattern in 2 seconds but bad judder effects from moving race car. Poor result.
Film based Pulldown Cadence tests (applicable to DVDs)
Cadence 2-2 30fps: Average
Cadence 3-2 24fps: Good
Cadence 2-2-2-4: Poor to Average
Cadence 2-3-3-2: Poor to Average
Mixed 3:2 Film with Added Video Titles: Good
With 1080p Input
Jaggies 1: Good
Jaggies 2: Good
Video Resolution Loss Test: Very Good. Top right box with flicker
Film Resolution Loss Test: Average to Good
HD Background: Average Some Flicker
Stadium Seating Test with Moire: Little moire' in top seating. Visible Judder during side to side panning. Average.
Any opinions on this? I would be dealing mostly with HD Satellite or DVD/BR DVD as sources.
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