I have had 3 x 9242 and 2 x 6400 (and 3100) for over 10+ years wired to the normal 2 x 4 SW44 cascade ... never had issue with signal via either power inserter on port 1 of the SW44. I decided to re-arrange receivers now that the kids have moved out and regardless of which HD receiver is connected to either power inserter, no signal detected. BUT the 3100 see's both birds on a check switch. Unfortunately, I did not take note when disconnecting the cables which port each receiver was on , but I have methodically made note of connections ...
9242 A or B inputs from any SW44 ports 2-4 either switch works, any port connected to port 1 on either SW44 fails check switch
6400 any port 2-4 on either SW44, but not port 1 on either SW44
3100 works on all ports including power inserter, see's both birds on check switch
What am I missing ?
Found a problem, after power cycle both SW44, found port 1 on the second SW44 (where the power inserter is connected) has no SAT signal, swapped out the power inserter, but still no signal. Not sure why the first SW44 was not working, but power cycle fixed the issue
I have my bell 9400 hooked up to a portable dish with only one coax coming from dish to receiver and attached to input 2 I have dish locked on 82 but can’t get pvr to record and guide won’t update can I run this as a single tuner to get pvr to work I do get all high def channels in my subscription that I can watch
My condo building previously had a few subscribers so we have been using a DPP44 switch for years. We only have one subscriber now, so we would like to remove this switch to sell it.
Current setup: Twin DPP LNBF with 2 cables going into the DPP44 (located in condo management room), then one cable going to the subscriber's receiver.
My question: if I remove the switch and power inserter, and re-connect one cable from the LNBF/dish directly to the cable going to the subscriber's receiver, will the subscriber need to do anything on their side? Or will the signal just continue to flow through in a "transparent" way for them? I would like to proceed without disturbing the subscriber. Can we avoid the "check switch" following the re-connect?
The subscriber will need to go into setup and do a check switch and save the results.
On the remote press menu, 6,1,1 .
You can not avoid the check switch since the subscriber unit will be looking for the DPP44 which you are removing.
Last year my 18 year old 5100 receiver died. Just recently I bought a 9241 to replace it. So far I am unable to tune a signal on the 9241. I don't think my dish has been knocked out of alignment but I'm not sure. I'm thinking of hooking the 5100 back up just to see if it can pull even a little bit of a signal.
Is my 9241 compatible with the dish and lnb that has served my 5100 for the past eight years? Do I need to replace the dish? One of the times I moved the guy who did the install told me that the dish I had that I planned to use with the 5100 was not compatible with it. He installed a different dish.
What is going wrong here that I'm not comprehending?
Yeah what Jdevlin said, what kind of LNB do you have? is it legacy? you might as well upgrade it to a DPP Twin, DPP Twin is the way to go, one cable can feed 2 tuners. and the switch is built into the LNB so the wiring is a lot cleaner and neater. Then all you need is a DPP Separator coming off the one coax to feed both inputs on the back of the 9241
I agree, the 9241 requires a different dish and LNB, and possibly new wiring than the 5100 to work correctly. To use an existing single coax with a 9241, the minimum would be an oval dish with a DPP LNB and a DPP separator at the receiver. To use an existing oval dish with two legacy LNBs, a 4x4 switch and two coaxes would be required.
I have a question on installing a 9241 receiver. My mom was previous using a 6131 and getting both 82 & 91 signals on the single line going into her house . I installed the line into the splitter that the dual tuner PVR use , ran the check switch , did everything, but it doesn’t split the signal . Says “ one of the satellite Inputs or switches is not connected proper “ error 530 . Best to my knowledge , if you have both signals comming down 1 line , I thought they could be split with the DPPlus separator.? She has two dishes on her roof , one with the Dual quad lnb, the other is the generic dual single heads . I’m not sure what goes where cause it is freezin* here , too cold to climb the roof. Haha . Any idea why this does not work
the 9241 will work on the line as long as there is DPP Plus equiptment on the roof, The separator will only split the signal to both tuners if you have the matching technology at the lnb. if you have legacy lnb and the older switches, then nah it wont work, but you can run a new line from legacy switch to the 9241 to get both tuners working if u dont wanna change stuff around
I just wanted to check if this possible. I currently have a Bell 9241 PVR with a couple other single tuner receivers connected. I have the two lnb setup with the SW44 switch and the power pack inside. I would really like to get rid of the power pack inside and at the same time just have 1 wire running to the PVR and then use a dpp separator behind it.
I have ordered a Bell quad lnb to replace my two single lnbs outside. Would I be able to leave the wires that are connected to the SW44 switch outside? Or would I have to completely bypass the switch and just plug the cables directly into the Quad LNB.
Thanks for the help
If the legacy LNBs are replaced with a DPP LNB then the SW44 should be eliminated. If the existing wiring to the SW44 is not long enough to reach the new DPP LNB then use barrel connectors to join the existing wiring so the receivers are connected directly to the DPP LNB. Use a single coax and a DPP separator at any dual tuner receivers.
Yes remove the SW44 switch what ExDilbert Said. If the wires coming off the switch are not long enough to go to your DPP Quad LNB then yes do what ExDilbert said and extend them with a coupling aka f-type barrel connector. If It was me, i would put new longer wires that reach and eliminate any splice in the wiring. but your way works too.
I agree that reducing coax connections to as few as possible is the best option. Barrel connectors need to be rated at 2GHz or higher. Excessively corroded connectors should be replaced with high quality compression connectors. Cables with signs of water ingress, such as corroded inner conductors, need to be replaced.
My original Bell setup included a SW44 connected to a 6400G2 and a 9242 receivers. The 9242 died so we bought the latest generation 9500 and are having no end of difficult getting it going. Bell support wasn’t of help beyond the normal troubleshooting. The problem is the 9500 has only one satellite input so which feed to I plug in, 91 or 82? The 6400 works just fine and I have all SD and HD channels but regardless of which cable I plug into the 9500, I do not see any HD channels and cannot pick up some of the SD channels (No satellite signal or waiting for signal errors).
What I’ve read in some of these threads is that the SW44 is not compatible with the 9500. Sure would be nice to see a network diagram for how to connect this up.
The SW44 won't work with a 9500. DPP equipment is required. A DPP quad LNB is the first step. If a switch is still required (but likely won't be) then a DPP switch is required. The new connections will be one RG6 direct from the DPP quad LNB to the receivers for up to 4 receivers. Receivers with two coax inputs will require a DPP separator. There should be pinned threads with diagrams in the Bell Satellite installation forum but they may be more complicated than necessary.
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