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Hi guys,

Apparently 3W is receivable on ABS-3A (Americas beam) [Satbeams 8209]

11132,H,30000,3/4 DVB-S2 8PSK
11168,H,30000,3/4 DVB-S2 QPSK

Need clear LOS down at 4.7deg from my location to catch -- will test soon...

So far I can receive:

15W Telstar 12V (Pan American beam) [Satbeams 8364]

10975,V,6726,1/2 DVB-S (carrier only)
10983,H,45000,4/5 DVB-S2 QPSK2 (only radio ITC)
11733,H,45000,4/5 DVB-S2 QPSK2
11795,H,45000,4/5 DVB-S2 QPSK2 (5 TV ITC)
11857,H,45000,4/5 DVB-S2 QPSK2
11919,H,45000,4/5 DVB-S2 QPSK2

Anyone else able to catch anything lower than 15W on the Ku bands?

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hardware: Winegard 76cm Ku dish, Avenger PLL321S-2 universal lnbf, Openbox S9 and TBS6921 receivers
location: Montreal, QC
 

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A number of years ago I was able to snag Atlantic Bird at 8 W KU. I set up a temp 33" dish in the driveway. I had to tilt the mast towards the sat so it was no longer vertical because the dish on its mount was as far down as it could go and it just cleared the roof across the street.

There was not a lot to view.
 

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from here in Manitoba, NSS806 at 47.5'W (C-Band) was as low as I could go without heavy modifications to the sat mount... and modification to trees accross the neighbor's lot. I no longer have C-band...)
Ku seems to go dead for me at around 50'W now even with no trees that low
 

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I wish I was at my Nova Scotia location to try. 3W would be 12 deg elevation so it's possible with the dish upside down. Like jorgek, I have seen 8W in past which is 15 deg elevation. I've tried to catch others beyond 15W but I'd have to check my notes (other computer) to know if I got any results. I know I tried.
 

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30W is my farthest east so far (southern MB). I have the dish mounted on a mast above the gable of the roof in order to clear some trees half a Km away. Using an SG2100 motor, USALS won't turn the dish that far, but DISEqC control will. Think it actually hits the physical stop on the motor. The dish is a 90cm geosat pro and universal PLL LNBF. 30w is 6 deg off the horizon from here, and maybe 2-3 degrees above the distant tree line.
 

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Hey guys, I have further confirmed the following ITC channels below:

12.5W @ 11541V/4168 DVB-S2 QPSK = "AASP TV" SD & HD, though just black screen -- no programming on when I viewed.

15W @ 10983H/45000 DVB-S2 QPSK = 2 SD tv channels from Venezuela recently ITC...
15W @ 11800H/45000 DVB-S2 QPSK = same 5 SD tv channels still ITC..

Was not able to confirm anything at 3W yet due to obstructions at my location -- will have to try from elsewhere later this summer...


ps. Jorjek & Cyberham, nice to see you guys are still around after all this time! ;)
 

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Good to see you are still chasing the eastern satellites. 8W is the furthest east I've seen. I wonder why my images posted on May 27 are no longer visible. Maybe I need to reduce their byte size.
 

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From Toronto Telstar 12 Vantage at 15.0°W is only 9 degrees above the horizon. Most offset antennas can't go down that low so the trick is to invert the antenna... basically you just flip it over. Here is an antenna receiving Telstar 12 Vantage at 15.0°W from Toronto that I setup a couple of years ago.


 

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You don't have to invert the dish. All I do is tilt the mast from vertical towards the satellite. Much easier and quicker!
 

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I wonder if anybody has news on this subject? I now have my 1.2-metre Ku dish up again and I was checking the far eastern satellites but I found nothing. In that direction in summer, I can see around the trees from east of 30W to 8W or perhaps further east. Maybe my USALS is off that far east so I need at least one active transponder to look for.
 

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Just installed yesterday a motorized 1-metre Ku dish that can view 5W through 107W continuous. USALS is working well. So far the furthest east transponder found is 12080 H 10332 @ 22W. It is a strong data tp. But I will continue blind scanning other satellites to find more.
 

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Good luck!!!!
 

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For the record, this is what I found. Some require a universal LNB. The only channels available on Ku to watch were on 30W.

22W:
12081 H 10332

30W: (FTA channels viewable)
12133 H 27500
11885 V 27500
12053 V 27500

37.5W:
11644 H 15455

40.5W:
11053 H 20000
11174 H 16364

43W:
12135 H 34137
12172 H 34136

47.5W:
10984 H 44637 (pulsing)

55.5W:
11508 V 13017

58 W:
11881 H 30000
11921 H 30000
12041 H 30000
11941 V 30000

61W:
11016 H 32728
11136 H 30000

63W:
11016 H 32727
11096 H 32728
11136 H 30000
11176 H 32728
11016 V 32727
 

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Doing a blind scan now for 15W. But coming up with nothing. Nova Scotia is no longer covered in the footprint according to satbeams. I've not found any satellites that I can receive east of 22W.
 

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...for 15W there are 'numerous' channels now ITC...
Was anybody able to benefit from this? I'm outside the footprint.
 

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Hi Cyberham, I still have not been able to catch 3W-(Ku) due to an obstruction 50m ahead in the LOS -- however, the 'Americas' footprint is covered by all of Eastern N-America and only needs between a 70-80 cm dish! There is also a European beam that gets into Eastern Canada, though you might need a 90cm dish. Same TPs as before.

Apart from that, 15W-(Ku) is beaming to the Mid-Eastern US and lower Canada, except for the Canadian Eastern seaboard which is no longer in the 'PanAmerican' footprint. ITC channels have decreased substantially on TuVes networks, however there is now two Voice-of-America-HD broadcasts at 11027/H/12500-S2

Happy hunting...

ps. I still catch 15W on my small 75cm dish, even though 90cm is recommended.
 

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Good to hear you're still active! A couple of months ago, I tried hard to catch 3W. I used an inverted 1m fixed dish on my 2nd-storey balcony. I was able to easily receive strong data tps and even repeatedly received the Metropolitan opera from 22W which I used as a reference. I then dropped the dish elevation by 12 degrees and swung it further east by about 17 degrees using a smartphone app angle meter to measure. But I never received 3W. I know there are two tps supposedly active (11132 H 30000, 11168 H 30000) but nothing. I am trying to locate anybody in North America who has actually received these to confirm the signals truly are receivable. After the snow disappears, I may try again.

I've also tried to receive 15W but its footprint simply doesn't reach Nova Scotia any longer. I also attached my C-band LNBF to my 1m dish to scan this portion of the arc, but nothing received with that either. I receive lots with my 1.2m dish on C-band but only in the 91W through 113W portion of the arc and a few radio and data signals 37.5W through 55.5W.
 

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I am trying to locate anybody in North America who has actually received these to confirm the signals truly are receivable.
Yes, that would be great... there must be somebody somewhere that could confirm it for us?
 
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