Agreed, I just got the FibreOp 2.0 hooked up and the HD quality is pretty bad in comparison to Expressvu which I switched from. The guide is amazing but the HD quality is filled with artifacts.
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Hey just wondering if anyone has herd something on if or when Fiber Op HD quality will be improved... i presently have both Aliant and rogers TV service but i have had to remove everything but basic service off Aliant and switch rogers to my main as compared to rogers HD especially on sports it is pretty bad... i mean i only have rogers for the few channels Aliant doesn't have plus you get Aliant TV dirt cheap in the bundle so i wanted to drop rogers and just get those shows off the net (Netflix ect.) but just can't justify it at the moment as on my 55" Phillips Aliant looks pretty bad... anyone got any info?
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It's day one, but it's quite pixelated and soft looking. I have a 120 inch screen so it's very noticeable.
The problem with the HD quality isn't calibration settings, it's motion artifacts, pixelation and a soft picture in my opinion.
Yeah it's pretty bad. I found I got used to the crappy HD and it doesn't seem so bad to me now. Game of Thrones for example on HBO looked amazing. What I also find with some channels is the color is weird making some channels almost look like some kind of waterpaint overlay setting in photoshop. Almost like if you turned the color up way to high on a tv or something. It's odd and I've never experienced it before on other providers.
It probably has a lot to do with the scalers in both MediaRoom and the TV. Also, I don't know if the channels being pushed are switched between 1080i or 720p but you are forced to choose one or the other on FibreOp so for my projector which is native 720p, I set the FibreOp box to output 720p. For the LCD in my bedroom which is native 1366 x 768 I tried both FibreOp box set to 720p and 1080i and I found 1080i to look better. The problem is there could be a ton of scaling going on. Examples:
1) CBSHD sends 1080i - FibreOp box pushes out 720p - TV scales to 1366X768 - scaled twice
2) FOXHD sends 720p - FibreOp box pushes out 1080i - TV scales to 1280X720 - scaled twice
So the ideal situation would be either of the two:
1) FOXHD sends 720p - FibreOp box pushes out 720p - TV scales to 1280X720
2) CBSHD sends 1080i - FibreOp box pushes out 1080i - TV scales to 1920X1080
So the quality of this HD in my opinion is poor overall but given the factors above either the FibreOp box scaler or TV scaler being poor could make things even worse.
I believe on other providers each station or network will send the signal out in either 1080i or 720p but I have no idea what happens with FibreOp if everything is converted to one or the other and then sent down the pipe or the FibreOp box scales the stations depending on how you've set it to push it out.
1) CBSHD sends 1080i - FibreOp box pushes out 720p - TV scales to 1366X768 - scaled twice
2) FOXHD sends 720p - FibreOp box pushes out 1080i - TV scales to 1280X720 - scaled twice
So the ideal situation would be either of the two:
1) FOXHD sends 720p - FibreOp box pushes out 720p - TV scales to 1280X720
2) CBSHD sends 1080i - FibreOp box pushes out 1080i - TV scales to 1920X1080
So the quality of this HD in my opinion is poor overall but given the factors above either the FibreOp box scaler or TV scaler being poor could make things even worse.
I believe on other providers each station or network will send the signal out in either 1080i or 720p but I have no idea what happens with FibreOp if everything is converted to one or the other and then sent down the pipe or the FibreOp box scales the stations depending on how you've set it to push it out.
The FibreOp 2.0 Motorola boxes definitely have the option to switch between 1080i and 720p output.
Problem is not tv's, either you've never seen good quality HD or you're watching only the decent channels such as hbo on demand game of thrones. If you watch pretty much any live HD especially sports you'll see it's quite bad.
I have a 22 inch Asus monitor I'm using as a TV, a 40 inch Dynex and a Mitsubishi projector and it is quite noticeable on all of them. Some channels or movies are quite good, but overall it is noticeably worse then Bell or Rogers. The only thing I'm unsure of is if using a direct patch cable to the STBs improves quality versus using coax (which I'm using) but I highly doubt it. If it's a tv issue then I think it's the reverse, people who can't see a difference have a tv that scales horribly across the board. I will try and post some pics soon.
They must have it on display somewhere in your area. Just go see it in action and see for yourself. Turn to any channel with sports on and you should see the issues in no time. I haven't complained because I know it's a problem not an incident and I don't feel like them sending a tech out to my house to waste my time. If they can't see the issues here then I'm certainly not going to convince them. If I was seriously willing to cancel my service then I'd call but the functionality and internet speed more then make up for it in my mind.
You do get used to it but it's like a slap in the face when you first switch.
What TV do you have NO-CRTC?
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