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GPON SFP Stick

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#1 ·
For anyone who may not be aware the Home Hub 3000 doesn't have GPON support built in. Bell Aliant provisions a GPON SFP stick on your service and it is inserted into the Home Hub. Since SFP is a standard interface you can take it out of the Home Hub and use it in other equipment. I myself am now using a Ubiquiti Edgerouter ER-X SFP. Just had to add VLAN 35 like normal and all is well. If you strictly have internet then it's easy. If you have TV then you'd need to configure things appropriately. If you have phone it's a no-go as the Home Hub acts as VoIP adapter.
 
#56 ·
Do you mean a 1 Gigabit SFP media converter? That's what I got (I've tried the MC220L and the 10Gtek one with similar results) - but there's some kind of overhead/buffer overflow issue many people are having and I'm only able to pull down ~400mbps on my Gigabit connection with a media converter, but still manage to push 940 upload (the line max). What's weird is that it's extensively discussed on the DSLReports forums, but not many have mentioned it here:

https://www.dslreports.com/forum/r31118482-Yes-you-CAN-bypass-the-HomeHub-3000~start=2250 - It's discussed on this page of the thread as well, among others.

Looks like the only currently known way to sync @ 2.5G to the SFP ONT is to either

a) Use a specific Broadcom PCIE NIC with modified drivers - but even then - people with the Nokia ONT/Stick are having issues with this (I have the Nokia one, so this option won't work for me)
b) Buy a Ubiquiti ES-16-XG switch, which are capably of syncing (even the Nokia ONT) at 2.5G in a stable manner. But the switch is almost $800....
 
#58 ·
Pull the fibre out first (grab the green part and pull - pinch the sides). As for the SFP itself, pull the little lever down all the way and then some. They key is to push it down farther than you think it needs to go, more than 90 degree angle. The Stick should just slide out.
 
#62 ·
Nova Scotia bypass HH3000 with IPTV/VOIP

Hello from Nova Scotia! In trying to bypass the Bell Aliant HH3000 for internet, I have been reading so many treads on so many websites, but still I can't make it work. I pay for internet (500/500), IPTV and VOIP phone. The setup I am trying to make work is FTTH -> MC220L -> unmanaged switch (DLINK GO-SW-5GE) -> #1 router RT2600AC, #2 OPTCORE SFP to RJ45 (GLC-T) -> HH3000. On my router, I set it up for VLAN 35, and clone the HH3000 MAC, which works if HH3000's IP has been released. On HH3000, I lose phone, but TV works. Is there no way with Bell Aliant in Nova Scotia with the DHCP service, to use HH3000 for phone/TV and a separate router for internet? P.S. : I lost the phone before when releasing IP, or doing factory reset, and Bell Aliant was able to fix. I feel it might be the same thing here (using copper to SFP) and just haven't called them yet to fix, but the bigger issue is that I can't seem to use internet on my router without releasing the HH3000 IP? Am I missing anything? Thanks for any help!
 
#63 ·
Hello from Nova Scotia! In trying to bypass the Bell Aliant HH3000 for internet, I have been reading so many treads on so many websites, but still I can't make it work. I pay for internet (500/500), IPTV and VOIP phone. The setup I am trying to make work is FTTH -> MC220L -> unmanaged switch (DLINK GO-SW-5GE) -> #1 router RT2600AC, #2 OPTCORE SFP to RJ45 (GLC-T) -> HH3000. On my router, I set it up for VLAN 35, and clone the HH3000 MAC, which works if HH3000's IP has been released. On HH3000, I lose phone, but TV works. Is there no way with Bell Aliant in Nova Scotia with the DHCP service, to use HH3000 for phone/TV and a separate router for internet? P.S. : I lost the phone before when releasing IP, or doing factory reset, and Bell Aliant was able to fix. I feel it might be the same thing here (using copper to SFP) and just haven't called them yet to fix, but the bigger issue is that I can't seem to use internet on my router without releasing the HH3000 IP? Am I missing anything? Thanks for any help!
Did you ever get this to work? I'm in a similar situation. I have a pfsense router instead of the one you have, but I'm also trying to get the HH3000 to still host IPTV and voice, but no luck getting it to work. I tagged the vlans (34,35,36) and bridged them to the RJ45 -> SFP device, but no luck.

I only have internet working right now.
 
#64 ·
Just wanted to post a quick update to say that I'm now synced at 2.5G with Bell Aliant, which has now allowed me to ditch the HH3000 and still achieve the full gigabit speeds (940/940). Picked up an HP T730 thin client on eBay and threw in a Broadcom 10G Fiber card (the one mentioned in the DSLReports Bell Thread) - using a modified driver an PFSense I was able to achieve a 2.5G sync with the SFP ONT!

It cost a couple hundred bucks, but knowing that I have total control over my network feels very good :)

Thinking about upgrading to 1.5G Fibe, since my desktop PC has a 2.5G copper ethernet NIC, I should be able to get the full 1.5G on a single device, providing I also get a 2.5G capable switch! :)
 
#65 ·
Good work. I think Bell's intent with a 1.5G connection was to obtain full simultaneous throughput for 1G ethernet plus wifi plus TV, kind of like those 11G wifi routers that will never achieve that to one device. Still, 1.5G on ethernet is an interesting achievement, especially since they still only provide 6M DSL in many places.