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Sportsnet to broadcast Canada's GC matches

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Canada vs. Jamaica (at Los Angeles) Friday, 3 July @ 8 p.m. (ET)/6 p.m. (MT)
Sportsnet Ontario and West

El Salvador vs. Canada (at Columbus) Tuesday, 7 July @ 9 p.m. (ET)/7 p.m. (MT)
Sportsnet East, Ontario and West

Costa Rica vs. Canada (at Miami) Friday, 10 July @ 7 p.m. (ET)/5 p.m. (MT)
Sportsnet East and West
 

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The rest of the games will be live on Gol TV.

This tournament is really a joke though, most of the top players aren't there because of MLS or European commitments. Just look at the differences between the US rosters at the Confederations Cup, compared to this event.
 

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The Gold Cup isn't a joke, but holding the tournament every two years is. In the year before the World Cup (like this year) priorities are elsewhere. It's taken seriously as the continental championship in the year after the World Cup. The winner qualifies for the Confederations Cup.

Still it's a rare opportunity to see most of Canada's best playing together.
 

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Gold Cup is a joke... end of story... CONCACAF in general is a joke... They really need to try to improve the situation in N. America... you are not going to make national teams better when they are playing opposing sides from small islands.
 

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I don't want to start an off topic discussion on how to improve soccer in North America, but I think it would be a good idea to have one Confederation for all of the Americas, not two. That way maybe someday the Americas could compete (or at least come close to) UEFA.
 

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Gold Cup is a joke... end of story... CONCACAF in general is a joke... They really need to try to improve the situation in N. America... you are not going to make national teams better when they are playing opposing sides from small islands.
The Gold Cup Champions just pushed Brazil to the limit in the final of the Confederations Cup. It's not Europe or South America (and never will be), but it's not a joke.

Are you calling Jamaica one of the "sides from small islands"?
 

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Pushed to the limit? Up by 2 at the half. Brazil come back out and score within a minute and end up winning 3-2. Obviously the US team is getting better and better, but do you think that is because they are playing teams like Grenada or do you think it is because something like 8 or 9 of the starting line up play in Europe?

Jamaica is ranked 65th in the world and has only ever qualified for one world cup.

Guadeloupe is not even a member of FIFA and the entire country has a population of 400,000

4 of the 12 have never qualified for a world cup
4 of the 12 have only qualified for 1 world cup

Look at the gap from Costa Rico who has qualified for the World Cup 3 times to the 8 times the USA & 13 times Mexico have qualified.

Look at the rankings you have Nicaragua ranked 135th & Haiti ranked 120th.

Look at the massive difference in populations of all these countries. USA (300 million) v. Grenada (100,000 thousand)

Not saying that we have to be like Europe but look at Euro 2008. The lowest ranked team was 68th (Austria) and that is because they qualified automatically since they were the host. The majority of the rest were all ranked below 20. You didn't have the team ranked 12 taking on the team ranked 120th. You look at the population differences, obviously Russia has a large population but the majority of all the other countries there is not the massive difference that you see in CONCACAF Gold Cup.

I think it would be a good idea to have one Confederation for all of the Americas, not two.
I agree
 

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How is leading until the 74th minute and Brazil needing an 84th minute goal to win not pushing them to the limit?

We can't be like Europe because they have more than 50 countries and soccer is the number one sport in virtually all of them. It doesn't seem to hurt the European teams to regularly play minnows like the Faroe Islands (48,500) and San Marino (29,973) in their World Cup and Euro qualifying groups.

Look at the gap from Costa Rico who has qualified for the World Cup 3 times to the 8 times the USA & 13 times Mexico have qualified.
All that shows is that two countries are much better than the others, just like South America. For most of the history of the World Cup, North America only had one spot.

Playing these three group games is good for the Canadian team and if they advance that will be even better.
 

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How is leading until the 74th minute and Brazil needing an 84th minute goal to win not pushing them to the limit?
Because as soon as Brazil came out from half time and scored the USA were finished. Only for Howard it would have been much worse. This is part of the reason why playing a team like Grenada and winning 4-0 serves no purpose. They went into the final confident because they beat Spain. You build confidence by playing challenging games, not playing games when you can field any team you want and still win.

We can't be like Europe because they have more than 50 countries and soccer is the number one sport in virtually all of them. It doesn't seem to hurt the European teams to regularly play minnows like the Faroe Islands (48,500) and San Marino (29,973) in their World Cup and Euro qualifying groups.
Well CONCACAF has 40 countries, the problem is that many of them are small islands with small populations. Exactly the reason why I think CONCACAF is so messed up.

There is no problem playing countries that have low populations or a low rank. The problem is when you have a competition which is supposed to represent quality, instead has two powerhouses followed by low ranked or tiny islands as the competition.

Can you imagine a Euro competition like this?

Spain
Germany
San Marino
Andorra
Faroe Islands
Liechtenstein
Malta
Azerbaijan
Kazakhstan
Armenia
Luxembourg
Estonia

All that shows is that two countries are much better than the others, just like South America.
Problem is that CONMEBOL only has 10 countries and yet Brazil won World Cup 5 times, Argentina 2 times, Uruguay 2 times...the only team never to qualify for the WC is Venezuela. How many times has the powerhouses of CONCACAF USA & Mexico won the World Cup?

Argentina qualified 14 times
Bolivia 3
Brazil 18
Chile 7
Colombia 4
Ecuador 2
Paraguay 7
Peru 4
Uruguay 10
Venezula 0

In CONCACAF 10 out of 40 countries has qualified for the World Cup and the majority of those 10 qualified only one time.

Playing these three group games is good for the Canadian team and if they advance that will be even better.
Probably but I live in America and grew up in Ireland, I just happen to have Canadian satellite.....
 

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That hypothetical Euro is ridiculous. That is not like the Gold Cup. Most of the Central American teams, a couple of the Caribbean ones and Canada, are much better than those minnows you listed.

Did the rest of those comments have a point other than to make the earth-shattering revelation that the South Americans are better? Uruguay's long ago World Cup wins are about as relevant to the state of soccer today as Canada's gold medal.

Of more general interest, Gol TV is having a free preview on most systems, so the games not on Sportsnet will be widely available.
 

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Sportsnet will broadcast Canada’s quarter-final match this Saturday 18 July. Canada finished first in Group A and takes on Honduras. The match will broadcast live across Canada at 17.00 ET / 14.00 PT.
 
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