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Hi Gents,

I stumbled across what looks like a decent Arris Gateway mg5225g system with the PVR unit and two portals. The lady who owned it moved to Telus, and simply gave it away. :angel She said it worked perfectly, but Shaw wouldn't take it back, and she couldn't bear to scrap it; so she posted it on Craigslist. She left it outside in a box as she would be at work, so I dropped off some flowers to show my gratitude.

I've got a couple of DCX3400-M units that operate fairly well (they miss the odd recording from time to time so aren't 100% reliable) as well as two ancient DCT6200 generation boxes (one's the PVR version). Of course the latter doesn't give us all the HD channels we pay for (I almost never watch anything that's not HD, and my Misses is getting close to that too), so I was thinking of using the Gateway system to replace the old boxes. I'm a bit geeky and installing these would be simple enough but Shaw, of course, insists they send a Tech to install and charge me $100. So I've got an appointment for May 12th to get it done.

I had a discussion with Shaw Tech support and there is no issue having this on the same system as the DCX3400s as they put in MoCA Filters which separate the communications between boxes. So the questions are, how reliable is the Arris Gateway mg5225g system, is it worthwhile for me to pay $100 for the install, and where can I find a manual or procedure to replace the 500 Gig Hard Drive. I assume there is a way to have the remote control a TV (On /Off & Volume). Or am I all wet here?

If you have any tips or suggestions please post them. Thanks for the assist.
 

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The Gateway system is still a viable option for recording/viewing Shaw broadcasting. It has a few glitches but has the basics plus a few things your 3400 doesn't have. It will co-exist just fine with the 3400 as well. Shaw has moved on to its new system so there won't be much in the way of future updates for the Gateway but that has already been the case for quite a while now. The portal remotes can certainly be set up to power on/off and change volume for most tvs. If you don't have the manuals, look them up on the Shaw website for tv codes and setup instructions. There is also lots of information on varies Gateway topics located here:

Shaw Gateway - Canadian TV, Computing and Home Theatre Forums

If you are looking to replace the hard drive to get more recording space, the easier option is to get an expander for the system. I don't think Shaw sells them anymore but many people have purchased their own drive plus enclosures that work successfully. There are details on the enclosures that have worked here:

http://www.digitalhome.ca/forum/224-shaw-gateway/142528-shaw-gateway-adding-external-drives.html

The part that confused me was the $100 fee Shaw wants to charge you. I have not heard of this install fee and certainly didn't pay to have mine installed although that was a while back. I would be questioning that charge. I thought their high monthly prices included service.
 

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Discussion Starter · #4 · (Edited)
Thanks for the suggestions gents. Shaw actually asked me to get the lady to contact them, but after agreeing with me that she'd be on hold for 25 minutes before speaking to them, Shaw put me on hold for 2 minutes and contacted her to release them; before scheduling the install appointment.

I'll check out those links. Shaw said the $100 was because I didn't buy the hardware from them nor sign a multiyear contract. :(
 

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I've done some searching tonight, but haven't found an answer. Has anyone upgraded the internal drive? I did it on a couple of the DCT PVRs and it has worked great. I wouldn't mind skipping the external drive scenario again and just plugging in something big inside. Has anyone done that, or know of any limitations?

Thanks again for the input. ;)
 

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The Shaw Rep came and installed the gear. It was pretty routine. I really liked a handheld device he had that communicates with their system (central office?) and give them direct read outs of everything on the system. Pretty Slick. The old days of connecting meters are gone. The Shaw Rep wiped off the old recordings so we could start fresh. He said he'd never heard of Shaw charging for any type of install.

However, after dinner when I was checking it out; I had earlier put it to record 2 shows on Velocity (I'm a junkie for that channel it seems) and it said it had; but when I tired them it just hung up. I also saw a bunch of HBO shows that were supposedly wiped off. I then selected Velocity (Channel 242) and got an error message to call Shaw if I wanted to subscribe to this channel. I did so and spent the next hour re-setting everything a couple of times. This Rep said it was because of something they failed to do at his end when the first Rep finished up. They seemed to be having trouble communicating with the Hard Drive.

Eventually he got it to work, and all I was left to do was manually remove the old HBO shows. I may go try the Apple App just for grins.
 

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Just an update. Everything has works great, and even my Misses is a happy Camper. I'm now debating trying to find a couple more Portals of this vintage, and retire two DCX-3400s. I know we'd have to install a separate expansion hard drive; or maybe I could modify the Arris Gateway mg5225g box and install a 3 TB drive.

I'll have to check that out. ;)
 

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Bought a MP2150A at Value Village:$8.99 last month.
Checked serial number with SHAW.
Works fine.
This week, another available $5.99.
Some Craigslist prices are good, some bad, but worth watching.
 

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Thanks for the Value Village tip.

I never would have though of that. ;)

P.S. I found a vendor on line in Vancouver who says he will sell me a pre-formatted Hard Drive (Up to 6 TB) that will work in an Arris Gateway mg5225g system.
 

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Bought a MP2150A at Value Village:$8.99 last month.
Checked serial number with SHAW.
Works fine.
This week, another available $5.99.
Some Craigslist prices are good, some bad, but worth watching.
Which Vancouver location has the MP2150A?

Thanks for the info. ;)
 

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"had" for Thrift Shop items.
Scavengers sometimes grab expensive items just for parts without realizing its value.
Victoria Drive at 49 has had at least two, but worth doing the circuit (I'm retired!):
Queensborough, 2(3?) Coquitlam stores, Hastings, and Richmond.
Saw another original style PVR unit at Salvation Army North Van Lonsdale for $10.
I paid $50 for mine at SA Granville a year ago.
Frequent checks only way to find them.
Also, phone SHAW to see if it is legal before buying, as only exchanges allowed.
Tech support can advise you of status in about 10 minutes.
 

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Thanks. I again tried the Coquitlam Barnet Hwy Store and no joy. I'll have to make a circuit sometime, as I'm not yet retired =>unless I won last night's Loto Max! ;)
 

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Gents,

I know you can use a Shaw Arris MP2000NA Portal on a Arris Gateway mg5225g box. Is the Shaw Arris MP2000NA box better or worse than a MP2150A Portal? Other than the IR Tethering and a touch screen front on the MP2150A?

Thanks for the info.
 

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"had" for Thrift Shop items.
Scavengers sometimes grab expensive items just for parts without realizing its value.
Victoria Drive at 49 has had at least two, but worth doing the circuit (I'm retired!):
Queensborough, 2(3?) Coquitlam stores, Hastings, and Richmond.
Saw another original style PVR unit at Salvation Army North Van Lonsdale for $10.
I paid $50 for mine at SA Granville a year ago.
Frequent checks only way to find them.
Also, phone SHAW to see if it is legal before buying, as only exchanges allowed.
Tech support can advise you of status in about 10 minutes.
Zapattack,

I checked the Burquitlam Value Village & the Coquitlam store again but still no joy. Perhaps you would be so kind as to PM me if you come across a couple of MP2150A Portals in your travels?

Thanks for the assist.
 

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Hi Gents,

I stumbled across a deal I couldn't refuse on Craigslist. I've been looking for an Expander for the move to 4 MP2150A Portals (from 2) and retiring my 3400s. I got a couple year old a Arris Gateway mg5225g box with 3 MP2150A Portals, and a WD 1TB Expander => with the remotes, cables, PSU, for $60. The folks I bought it from had moved to Shaw Bluesky. The husband didn't seem all that enamoured with it and sounded like he missed the Gateway System. He said their Gateway always worked fine and if I have any problem to call them.

So now I'll read up on how to add a couple portals and the expander. (The rest will be spares.) I'm not going to call Shaw as they insisted on doing the first install (which I could have easily handled) and nicked me $100 in the process.
 

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The Gateway system requires MOCA filters to prevent the control signals reaching
the outside world.
I don't recall SHAW charging me for my equipment install, but that was two years ago.
All the equipment must be added to your account so it can be updated, and allow the right channel package.
 

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The Serviceman they sent added a Moca filter to the system and I think it also blocks out the 3400s as well. I'll just have to find out where I need to put them now.
I got my earlier Gateway equipment for Free and I don't have any contract with Shaw, so they billed me $100 for the install. Grrr....
Yes, I expect to have to make a call to Shaw to get the equipment added to my account. Except of course the Expander.
 

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I checked the incoming cable connections, and read up on MOCA. There is a filter on the incoming line to block MOCA communications outside of the local (in my house in this case) network. That filter is so I don't start changing settings on my neighbor's MOCA setup, watching their recordings, etc., (If they too have a MOCA system without filters). The line then feeds into a 3-way splitter with one of the output connections going to the Portal in the Master Bedroom, and the other to a 2-way splitter in the Family Room, which feeds the Gateway box and a nearby Portal.

There is another MOCA filter off the 3-way splitter to shield the non- MOCA devices (our two DCX-3400s and Internet) which the tech fed into another 3-way splitter.

One of our friends Mom's just went into assisted living and needed a Shaw Cable Box; so I gave them a DCX-3400. We are planning to do a major reno on the main floor, so I'm going to go to all Gateway very soon and won't need the DCX-3400s anymore.
 

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Interesting.
I had a 3400 in series with a portal and both seemed to work fine.
The 3400 had a few recordings, so I wanted it accessible.
 
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