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Im thinking of ditching bell tv after 5 years. Love the service, prices are good but sick of satellite tv losing signal in bad storms. The new Fibe tv service is available in my area.I currently have the fibe25 internet. Ive read that its a max of 4 set top box's. My question is i have 5 tvs. I want to change to fibe tv and i obviously want to watch my 5 tv's so i need 5 set tops. The most set top box's that will ever be on at once is 4 ( 3 sd and 1 hd). Now is it possible to get a 5 box install in this case? the 5 tvs will NEVER all be used at once. Unfortunately this is a deal breaker for me.. I need the 5 tvs or ill have to either settle for bell tv or make the swap back to robbers. I'd call be all ask but i already know ill call 5 times n get 5 different answers so i always come here first :cool:

Thanks in advanced folks.
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@kulkulkan, your network diagram is correct - the HPNA splitter is just a coax splitter with a wider frequency range to include the HPNA frequencies.
@rainey, the node is where your copper telephone line connects to the fibre optic cable. The speed of VDSL2 degrades over long distances of copper lines.

@same2you, in Ontario the minimum internet package is Fibe 6. If you order "Fibe 16+" with Fibe TV, you pay for Fibe 16, but you can download up to 25 Mbps (depending on IPTV traffic). In the early days of Fibe TV, people were able to order Fibe 6 and download up to 25 Mbps; however those accounts are being changed to limit the download to 6 Mbps.
I skipped "Essentials Plus" since it cost more (compared to the promotional pricing on the Fibe plans).

Essential Plus $28.95
Fibe 6 $19.48
Fibe 12 $20.98
Fibe 16+ $21.98

Here is the info from the "Offer Details":
  • Essential Plus: Monthly rate is $38.95 (subject to change), less $5 credit for months 1 to 12, less $5 Bundle discount. Usage 2 GB/mo.; $2.50/additional GB.
  • Fibe 6: Monthly rate is $48.95 (subject to change), less $24.47 credit for months 1 to 12, less $5 Bundle discount. Usage 25 GB/mo.; $2.00/additional GB.
  • Fibe 12: Monthly rate is $51.95 (subject to change), less $25.97 credit for months 1 to 12, less $5 Bundle discount. Usage 40 GB/mo.; $1.50/additional GB.
  • Fibe 16+: Monthly rate is $53.95 (subject to change), less $26.97 credit for months 1 to 12, less $5 Bundle discount. Usage 65 GB/mo.; $1.00/additional GB.
1. As nitra said, the drive is 320 GB. Fibe TV uses MPEG-4 compression which is more modern and efficient than MPEG-2 that Rogers uses. The rule of thumb is that MPEG-4 uses half the space of MPEG-2.

2. Bell currently uses 720p for HD. The STB can be set to display either 1080i or 720p.
1. You would have to change the remote to have the volume control the STB, make sure the volume is turned all the way up, then change it back to control the TV.

2. Fibe TV usually uses 720P, but the STB can be set to display 720P or 1080i. If you have a 1080 TV you can try both to see which gives you a better picture.

3. You can customize your channel list to remove channels you don't watch. BTW the Channel Up/Down buttons also work as Page Up/Down in list of programs.
@TM2-Megatron, Bell will use existing coax cable if possible. The installer should be able to advise you of the best approach once he is on site.
@Cardiac, you should get at least 19 Mbps with 1 HD stream in use. Here are some speed tests:
@rainey, Bell will use the existing coax cable in your suite if possible for TV. The coax cable would normally connect to Bell's modem/router at the entry point to your suite. Cat5 can be used for additional outlets or computers if necessary.
@TM2-Megatron, the maximum speed would depend on the distance from the node. If the standard speed is 25 Mbps, about half of the houses would be close enough to support 50 Mbps using FTTN.

Re: FTTH. Quebec City is aerial wiring and is much less expensive to upgrade to FTTH. Underground wiring requires a much greater investment to retrofit existing neighbourhoods and the payback is questionable.
@QuantumFluxx, your exact location in southern Ontario shouldn't matter, as long as Fibe TV is available for your home. If you are having trouble ordering Fibe TV without Internet, try mentioning "Zero-rated" Internet, since that's the way Bell seem to refer to it.

Let us know in the FibeTV without Internet Add-on thread if you are successful or not.

Edit by 57. Please post comments/questions regarding the "Zero-Rate" Internet in the linked thread above to keep that topic separate. Thanks.
1. No - the TV data is transferred over your local network from the PVR to the STB. Only streams that are being sent from the Bell head end over your telephone line affect your Internet speed.

2. The max. streams is now 3HD/1SD. I think the max. number of combined recordings & viewings is either 7 or 8.

3. Yes

4. You can extend by:
5 minutes after
15 minutes after
30 minutes after
1 hour after
2 hours after
3 hours after
You can specify the stop time for a series recording or an individual recording.
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Is signal better with the RJ45?
It's a digital signal, so as long as the bits are delivered the picture will look the same. If there was a problem with the cable connections and the bits can't be delivered, you would see dropouts and/or macro blocking.
@begs, any of the STBs would be able to access the recordings on the PVR. There are a few possibilities in addition to what 57 said:

1. Perhaps Bell will allow 8 STBs, although I would guess that only 6 can be active at any time.

2. Motorola (the STB manufacturer) makes an RF remote which AT&T and MTS sell for an additional cost. Perhaps Bell also has it available. See this thread.
1. The raw speed of a FTTN line is about 27 Mbps. Each HD stream uses 6.5 Mbps, SD streams use 2.5, whether you're watching live or recording. Watching a previously recorded program doesn't use any bandwidth. 1 HD stream using 6.5 Mbps = approx 20 Mbps available for internet, 2 HD streams would leave about 14 Mbps for internet.
Just for the record - you can't have 2 modems on the same line. You could put the new modem next to your desktop if you can connect it to your coax cable.
Just to eliminate any confusion - Aliant's FibreOP is a totally different product from a separate company, so it's early cancellation policy may be different.
I believe Bell use at least 25 Mbps for Fibe TV, so speed shouldn't be an issue.
Zero-rated internet:

Re: upload speed - there are 2 possibilities:

1. You are quite far from the fiber-optic node and that is the fastest speed they can give you.
2. Your modem or profile hasn't been configured properly.

It's probably worth a call to Bell.

RE: Download speed - make sure you PVR and all your STBs are powered off (not just the TVs) to do a proper speed test.

What happens when I turn on my TVs?

When you subscribe to Fibe TV, Bell gives you a total access of 25 Mbps to share between your Internet surfing and your TV watching, whether you signed up to Bell Fibe Internet 5/1 or Bell Fibe Internet 15/10. This means that in most cases, you'll enjoy blazing-fast Internet even if you're enjoying the most amazing TV experience at the same time.

For example, when two HD TVs are on, a Bell Fibe Internet 5/1 connection will still have all of its speed available for surfing. That's because we use the rest of the 25 Mbps bandwidth to bring you the TV channels you want to watch.

With Bell, your Internet connection is yours and yours alone and you decide how you want to use it.
None of your TV viewing counts against the 15 GB limit. You can watch 24/7 if you want.

App data usage will count against your internet limit - Facebook, Twitter, downloading album covers in Galaxie, etc. This usage will be tiny.
You can watch live and/or record 3 HD and 1 SD different channels.

You can also watch up to 3 recorded programs simultaneously, one of which has to be viewed on the TV connected to your PVR.

You can schedule recordings and access recorded shows on up to 6 TVs throughout your home.
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