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Hauppauge HD PVR -Newbie

Hi guys! Thank you very much for the quick replies/help with my questions. Unfortunately I am from the earlier generation that did record from LP's - hahahaha.

Is there a minimum hardware requirement with either method? the Hauppauge site calls out the following:
System Requirements

* Processor Requirements (minimum):
Dual core CPU
* Graphics with 256MB memory (or greater)
Note: the playback of high definition H.264 requires a fast CPU and at least 256MB of graphics memory
* Sound card


If I was to just record onto the PC but not playback on PC why would I need the 256mb video card? If I was to go with the hauppauge i would like to offload recordings onto the pc and create an AVCHD file, burn this onto a DVD that is readable on a BLuRay player as 720p content.

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Hauppauge HD PVR Connections

I tried to use the firewire process for offloading from a 8300 PVR but my 8300 kept crashing/rebooting so I gave up on this. My main use of this unit will be to offload recorded programs. From what I have read my application would require me to connect component cables from the 8300 to the HDPVR, and I am supposing a HDMI cable from the 8300 to the tv so that I can see the recording that I want moved over to the Hauppauge. Is this correct? Can the 8300 support dual outputs?

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I tried to use the firewire process for offloading from a 8300 PVR but my 8300 kept crashing/rebooting so I gave up on this. My main use of this unit will be to offload recorded programs. From what I have read my application would require me to connect component cables from the 8300 to the HDPVR, and I am supposing a HDMI cable from the 8300 to the tv so that I can see the recording that I want moved over to the Hauppauge. Is this correct? Can the 8300 support dual outputs?
As 57 said the 8300 only supports either the HDMI or component. The way to connect the HD-PVR is to connect the component outputs from your 8300 to the HD-PVR component input and then connect the HD-PVR component output to your TV (or receiver). There really is very little, if any, picture quality difference between component and HDMI. That way you don't have to be screwing around with cables.

I can understand the desire to offload previously required programs, but using the HD-PVR in this way is kind of like using a Lada to tow a BMW! Any PC based PVR software is SOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better than the 8300 that it is ridiculous. Since it sounds like you are buying (or have bought) the HD-PVR then you have gone through the big expense. Download Sage (there is a 21 day free trial) and try it out. The UI is about 5 generations beyond what you will find on the 8300. And if you don't like Sage there is BeyondTV, GBPVR, MythTV, etc.

The only problem will be if you are trying to watch live TV when the Sage/HD-PVR is trying to record a program. But you may like it so much that you may buy a non-PVR HD box and use your PC as a PVR.
 

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Question , in setting up the HD PVR to use with Sage can I output the HDMI from the PC to the TV, I don't want to snake componet cables trough the wall if I can avoid it.
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Rogers 4250 + Hauppauge HD-PVR vs Rogers 8300?

I already have a decent HTPC setup, but have been using Rogers basic cable with an analog tv tuner card and and standard def TV. Finally upgraded to a plasma tv, and now realize my options for recording high-def are extremely limited. Wondering if there is any real advantage to going with a Rogers 4250 STB + Hauppauge HD-PVR instead of just getting the Rogers 8300 PVR? I use Vista Media Center, though wouldn't rule out switching to Sage. I also have no interest in hooking it up to a PS3 to record Blu-ray discs, etc. it will be used purely for recording TV.
 

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Just wanted to throw out another data point. I just recently got my HD-PVR working with MythTV, and an SA4250 and it works very well. With the new NVidia drivers and MythTV allowing video decoding to happen in the GPU hardware, the CPU usage is MUCH better. Before I used to hit about 70% utilization playing back OTA HD MPEG2 recordings, which don't really require a lot of decoding horsepower, now with VDPAU support in MythTV I can playback H.264 recordings from the HD-PVR with about 15% CPU utilization.

I just upgraded to MythDora 10.21 and it includes drivers for the HD-PVR already, so I didn't even have to do anything, it just worked.

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Stupid question about this unit. I notice that it has Component input and output to provide pass through to your TV. Does the unit have to be powered (turned on) to get the pass through?
 

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I don't believe the unit has to be powered on, but it may have to be plugged in. But the way that most people use it as a PVR it would be left on 24x7.

I don't know why you would power it off as, like most electronics, it is never really off even when it is plugged in so I don't know that there is much of a change in power consumption.
 

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Evidently it is now possible to use the Hauppauge HD-PVR in Media Center!

http://dvblogic.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=1086#p3700

It involves using a third party application, DVBLogic, which will allow the HD-PVR to display and record channels from your HD set top box within Media Center and even use the EPG. Apparently it even works with the Xbox 360 as an extender.

From the link:
We are proud to announce the release of the first solution providing integration of Hauppuage's HD-PVR into Media Center.

Here are a list of features supported by DVBSBridge for HDPVR:
- High-Definition H.264 Video with AC3 5.1 Dolby Digital Sound
- Set-top box control from Media Center using HD-PVR's integrated IR Blaster or any MCE-compatible IR blaster
- EPG (TV Guide) support using an external XMLTV file (through EIT packets)
- Channel configuration imports from an XMLTV file
- Set-top box remote control key learning (requires a MCE-Compatible IR Receiver)
- All the goods that Windows Media Center has to offer... DRM free!
 

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Off Topic. Sorry.

Anyone in Fredericton have one that I can borrow so I don't have to buy one and then return it? :p
 

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I went and bought a HD-PVR last weekend and this past week after a reinstallation of Windows 7 I have HDTV in Media Center from my Motorola DCT6412 with Shaw.

Everything seems to work fine except for the buggy nature of the DVB-T drivers that make Media Center recognize the HD-PVR. I am able to change channels with the IR blaster on the HD-PVR and recording and pausing work fine.

With the HD-PVR going to be officially supported in Windows 7 when it is released I am happy to finally see HDTV in Media Center in Canada.

Now, if only I could get away from using the set top box altogether.
 

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Now, if only I could get away from using the set top box altogether.
This is extremely unlikely to happen in Canada, and even in the US there are issues - the most important being that you have to buy a whole new PC, you can't just add a CableCard tuner to an existing HTPC. And then there is the DRM up the wazoo.

Learn to love the HD-PVR with your cable box as that is the best we are likely to get.
 

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Ya I know exactly what you're saying. There will be no CableCard in Canada ever and right now with the digital transition only starting to become a twinkle in this country's eye we won't see anything spectacular for a while. \

At least the US is pushing us already, especially with online content and providers.

But you're correct, right now all we can do is exploit the small holes provided to us until a "real" solution comes along. The HD-PVR fills this need right now they only way I can see it. I would think more people would be buying this thing just because I see no other alternative.
 

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Unfortunately I don't really see any solution coming along that is any better than an HD-PVR. Anything in the future will likely have much more DRM that what you have today with files from the HD-PVR. And online content has its benefits but in that model you much less control over content than when it is in a file on your hard drive without any DRM.

So I am enjoying being able to record whatever I want to my two HD-PVRs and I just keep my fingers crossed that Rogers does not disable the component outputs on the cable boxes.
 

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How are you using the HD-PVR's to record? What software are you using? I just scheduled a bunch of recordings through Media Center so I'll wait to see how that goes. I've been noticing the IR blaster doesn't work perfectly, sometimes a number will get missed in the string. I guess I just need to tweak the timing more until I can get it to work 100% of the time.
 

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I use the HD-PVRs with SageTV. For channel changing I use firewire - both HD-PVRs are connected to Rogers SA3250HD boxes. I also use a USB-UIRT to change channels on other devices - that device seems much more reliable than the HD-PVR blaster which can only control one box - I think that is the case even if you have multiple HD-PVRs.
 
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