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It seems like in the Maritimes we get more cases of alerts not going out when they should have than we do alerts. The latest example is during a 911 outage earlier this week where the NB RCMP requested an alert be sent out but 2 hours later it still hadn't been: No Emergency Alert Sent During 911 Outage

This was pretty absurd because you had things going on like the City of Fredericton posting a phone number on Facebook saying "call this police officer's personal phone in an emergency" due to 911 being down, but we can't get an emergency alert sent out in 2 hours to alert people to that?

The process to send these doesn't appear to be even remotely responsive enough in this part of the country, making the system not really useful at all.
 

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I don't know if anyone else has discovered this, but my LG G6 now has an icon to control what alerts I wish to receive.
I now have the ability to totally disable Amber Alerts on my phone, but keep other emergency alerts active.This happened after my phone took a large software update.
Has something changed with respect of allowing users to determine which alerts they wish to receive?
 

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Nothing has changed that I know. The option of disabling Amber Alerts is possible in the US because they have different alert levels. Currently, in Canada, all emergency alerts are sent as "presidential alerts" (the highest level) and they cannot be cancelled. Let us know what happens when the next Amber Alert is issued in your area, assuming you received them before.

See the link below - FAQs, Top Questions/Answers - Can I opt out? Lots of information on the Alert Ready Website.


P.S. Do you have a phone purchased from the US or is the firmware US based?
 

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I purchased my LG G6 unlocked on Amazon from a Canadian supplier. But since I turned off the Amber Alert notification on both phones, we haven't had any more annoyances. I still have other emergency alerts enabled and get things like tornado warnings. But we did not receive the latest amber alert about the abduction in Hamilton.

I'll keep you posted.
 

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Article may be behind a paywall for some people, so I've copied some paragraphs below:

Canadians’ cellphones are widely inconsistent in how they deliver emergency alerts from government agencies, which could undermine the effectiveness of the national early-warning system, according to a new study by the federal telecom regulator.

In response to a high volume of complaints from mobile phone users, particularly over their perceived inability to control the volume of the alarms for emergency alerts, the Canadian Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission (CRTC) tested 10 different phones from five manufacturers. The researchers set the devices to specific settings – such as silent mode, do not disturb or maximum volume – and then triggered alerts in a shielded environment, recording how the phones behaved.

The regulator found significant variability in the alert tones, volumes and the settings that controlled the alarms, according to a report obtained by The Globe and Mail under the Access to Information Act.

While four of the phones played the characteristic Canadian alert sound, which lasts for eight seconds and is comprised of alternating tones, another five did not. One phone – the Samsung A70 – didn’t receive any of the emergency alerts throughout the entire testing process.
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For instance, the Huawei P30 emitted full-volume alarms regardless of its sound settings, until the researchers discovered that the phone has a separate menu for emergency alerts. There, a toggle switch labelled “use full volume” causes the phone to override all other settings and play emergency alarms at full blast, even when set to “do not disturb.”

The researchers learned, through trial and error, how to control the alert volume for each device by sending repeated alerts during the testing process – something that, they note, members of the public aren’t able to to do. “Therefore, there are many possible scenarios in which an individual may conclude that their phone is ignoring their settings when, in fact, they have configured the phone incorrectly,” the report reads.
 

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Another case in Nova Scotia recently, where the Nova Scotia RCMP put a notice up on twitter about them looking for an armed individual and suggesting people remain indoors. Lots of questions being asked about why that didn't trigger an alert, especially after last time where they really should have.

If it's enough for them to put up a "stay indoors" notice on Twitter, should that also prompt an alert? If not, why are they telling people to do that on Twitter? It just seems lke the alert system is hopelessly cumbersome to use so they don't bother, probably because they have to go through another agency entirely to send one whereas they can post to Twitter immediately.
 

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Also, there are many people, myself included that have no use for Twitter. We'd never get that notic.
 

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Well I mean, that's the problem. Like with the 911 thing. I really shouldn't have to know to check Facebook to find out if I can use 911 or not. Likewise I shouldn't have to scroll through Twitter to find out if the police have put out a "stay indoors" warning. That's the entire point of having an alerts system, but out here they seem utterly incapable of actually sending an alert.

A system that is too unresponsive and slow to use in an emergency is not a workable emergency system.
 

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Again, may be behind paywall...


Some paragraphs below:

Ontario is inviting police across the province to start issuing direct-to-cellphone alerts to warn the public about “active shooters,” such as the gunman who killed 22 people in Nova Scotia earlier this year.

An Aug. 6 memo from a senior public servant in the Ministry of the Solicitor-General obtained by The Globe and Mail tells local police chiefs how, where and when they can start issuing localized “public safety (policing) emergency alerts” in cases of severe and unconventional threats.

The police chiefs’ resolutions argued that better alerting isn’t just good policy – it’s the law. It pointed out that police services in Canada have faced a heightened legal obligation to warn the public about threats ever since the 1990s, when a woman known as Jane Doe successfully sued the Toronto Police Service for failing to put out warnings about a serial sexual-assault suspect.

Unlike Ontario’s Amber Alerts about missing children – which are always disseminated to millions of people across the entire province – these new kinds of warnings will be localized. “Alerts may be targeted to a city, region, country or township,” the memo says.
Let's hope it is properly targeted.
 

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Due diligence by the police???

 

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A girl was yelling out of a car window that she was kidnapped and was overheard. That turned out to be a misunderstanding, but given what people knew at the time, it was absolutely correct to hit the panic button.
 

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The alert put an annoying red information bar on the bottom of my screen on The Weather Network. Annoying not because of the message but because it effectively obscured the bottom of the specialized local forecast broadcast by TWN every 10 minutes. Why can't Pelmorex (owners of TWN and by coincidence also the operators of the Canadian Alert system) put the bar on the bottom of the screen and squeeze the full forecast screen into the space above? That's what sports and news channels do with their news tickers. It can't be that hard to do.
 

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This one is just weird:


The girl had been last seen Tuesday at approximately 2 a.m. at her home in the 300 block of Devonshire Crescent. According to police, the four-year-old girl left the home with a woman not known to the family.

The girl’s family reported her disappearance Tuesday around 9:30 p.m. The Amber Alert was issued Wednesday at 8:30 a.m. According to police following the cancellation of the Amber Alert, the girl was found Wednesday around 9 a.m. in the 1900 block of 20th Street West.
 

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Yeah there's definitely something we're not being told. (a few things actually).

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On November 25, 2020, a public test message will be issued through Alert Ready, Canada’s public alerting system, by most provincial and territorial emergency management organizations. Each participating province and territory will issue one test message that will be distributed over television, radio and compatible wireless devices.

Below are the test times for each province and territory:

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Just got the test while watching an OnDemand movie on Ignite TV (web interface/portal on laptop) at 11:02 Atlantic time (NB). I'm guesting it will also affect Cloud PVR, basically anything that is consider streaming coming from your cable provider.
 

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UPDATED - Public alerting tests to be conducted in Canada on November 25

All provincial and territorial emergency management organizations will conduct public alerting tests in Canada, except for Nunavut and Alberta.

For a wireless device to receive a test alert, it must be:
  • Connected to an LTE wireless or a newer wireless network (5G) at the time the test alert is issued;
  • Wireless public alerting (WPA) compatible; and
  • Equipped with a recent Canadian version of its operating software.
If a mobile device meets these conditions and did not receive the test, Canadians should contact their wireless service provider.
 

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I got it on IPTV. Would not have got it on my cellphone because it's not capable and was turned off anyway. But if I was not watching TV, listening to the radio or had a capable smartphone turned on, I would not have got the alert. However, I was on the Internet and no alert. If this system is to be universal. they should make the alerts appear on Internet connections in the area.
 

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If this system is to be universal. they should make the alerts appear on Internet connections in the area.
They technically can't, because of the way Internet works.
I live in the Greater Montréal Area, and my Internet connection comes out in Toronto. Nowhere near.

Also, you can't inject any code in secure web connections (which is most connections nowadays). Furthermore, this would break all your devices/applications that have an Internet connection but are not web browser capable (e.g.: Firestick, Apple TV, Apple Watch, Zoom, Toothbrush, etc.).
 

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Yet another gaffe:


I have been keeping track and not once have the Ontario Amber alerts resulted in the public directly saving a child. It was usually the "perp" turned themselves in/contacted police once aware of the situation; or the police "solved" the case directly without public assistance. The only direct public involvement that I recall was when the father who murdered his daughter a few years back was seen on the highway. Unfortunately, the daughter was already dead.
 
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